Rant - Biggest Loser Say What?
Hey Everyone 
As most of you know, I am not a professional trainer. Never advocated to be one and never will be. That being said I am just like most of you. Fat my entire life, the most exercise I got was doing the couch shuffle from the couch to the fridge. Health was in the toilet and I was going to die if I didn't do something. Had surgery, lost over 200 pounds, kept it off, battled weight gain recently and getting back on track. The one thing I have experienced and believe is that exercise is the key to losing, keeping it off and getting back on track if you fall off the wagon.
I watch The Biggest Loser... I don't think it's real life as anyone working out 6 hours a day and having their food controlled is going to lose. Now if they really want to have an impact on peoples lives, take it off the ranch baby. Work with people that are home, working and living life. Teach and apply what they (The Biggest Loser); advocates in real life and then you will have a GREAT show and more long term winners (losers).
Why am I babbling? Because last night something was said by both trainers that really made me mad.
If you watch the show you know that Joelle lost zero pounds because she was not working out like her partner. She tried to make excuses and it was all BS 
But when Bob and Gillian said they are tired of all the BS excuses they stated that one they can't stand is "I am not losing on the scale but I am losing inches". They also said something to the effect it was an excuse for not losing on the scale when putting on muscle and muscle weighs more than fat.
I understand where they were trying to come from, but I so disagree with that statement. I and many others have not seen that number on the scale move but have lost inches. NO EXCUSE, it does happen... there can be a time frame when you are really hitting the weights hard where the scale is not moving, but does that mean you are a failure and should quit? NO....
Maybe I need professionals to explain this one, but I am so tired of so called "experts" sending out misinformation that leads to us feeling like failures and losers and I don't mean loser in a good way?
What do you think? Have you experienced lost of inches when the scale is not moving? When you started hitting the gym hard with weights did you notice a considerable slow down and or the scale stop moving?
Please don't let a TV show keep you from doing what you know is right!!! Now where is my tape measure
and weights 
Take care,
Kathy
As most of you know, I am not a professional trainer. Never advocated to be one and never will be. That being said I am just like most of you. Fat my entire life, the most exercise I got was doing the couch shuffle from the couch to the fridge. Health was in the toilet and I was going to die if I didn't do something. Had surgery, lost over 200 pounds, kept it off, battled weight gain recently and getting back on track. The one thing I have experienced and believe is that exercise is the key to losing, keeping it off and getting back on track if you fall off the wagon.
I watch The Biggest Loser... I don't think it's real life as anyone working out 6 hours a day and having their food controlled is going to lose. Now if they really want to have an impact on peoples lives, take it off the ranch baby. Work with people that are home, working and living life. Teach and apply what they (The Biggest Loser); advocates in real life and then you will have a GREAT show and more long term winners (losers).
Why am I babbling? Because last night something was said by both trainers that really made me mad.
If you watch the show you know that Joelle lost zero pounds because she was not working out like her partner. She tried to make excuses and it was all BS But when Bob and Gillian said they are tired of all the BS excuses they stated that one they can't stand is "I am not losing on the scale but I am losing inches". They also said something to the effect it was an excuse for not losing on the scale when putting on muscle and muscle weighs more than fat.I understand where they were trying to come from, but I so disagree with that statement. I and many others have not seen that number on the scale move but have lost inches. NO EXCUSE, it does happen... there can be a time frame when you are really hitting the weights hard where the scale is not moving, but does that mean you are a failure and should quit? NO....
Maybe I need professionals to explain this one, but I am so tired of so called "experts" sending out misinformation that leads to us feeling like failures and losers and I don't mean loser in a good way?
What do you think? Have you experienced lost of inches when the scale is not moving? When you started hitting the gym hard with weights did you notice a considerable slow down and or the scale stop moving?
Please don't let a TV show keep you from doing what you know is right!!! Now where is my tape measure
and weights Take care,
Kathy
HW:330 - GW:150 - MW:118-125
RW:190 - CW:130
Kathy...
Thanks for posting this...As I felt EXACTLY the same way you did when I heard Jillian say what she did.... and it really pissed me off as well. Especially the inches thing...For us, we lose weight so fast in the first year post op that it CANNOT compare with a few months at a sweat farm...We spend an entire year or more losing weight slowly and we see what happens...It's the same for all of us! We are the proof that we do lose inches even when we have not dropped a pound in a few days or even weeks...We see it through the entire year...If I had known how these plateus or stalls really work as I do now that I lived thrrough15 months of them, I might have lasted longer on my pre op diets knowing that the weight loss was coming if I'd just give it two weeks!
Week two on the biggest loser there is ALWAYS a stall and both trainers decided to beat that stall by pushing them HARDER this season ...well hello!!! Of course they will lose weight if you push harder! Exercise burns fuel...No one can argue there! Is it healthy or not? I saw people puking and over working their bodies in week two just to lose some bigger numbers for the trainers... We as WLS people can't push ourselves so hard we vomit...I don't even think non WLS people should push that hard eitehr....I don't think that is healthy at all! It made me feel sick jus****ching them...
Then there was the " muscle does not weight more than fat "excuse""....While I agree with that...the volume of fat vs muscle is VERY VERY different. And if you weigh equal amounts fat and muscle on a scale and then put it in the body...The fat will look so much heavier and fluffy....So if you put the same volume of muscle and fat into a body the muscle will look like it weighs more! 10 lbs of marshmellows doesn't look the same as 10 lbs of sugar. So the statement is just a bit gray and shady for so many people who once believed that muscle is heavier. For all we know Joelle might be retaining water in her legs and still lost inches in her waist and other places...I didn't like Joelle any more than the rest of them and her attitude was crap...but the reaction of the trainers that no mater who you are, if you are showing no weight loss every week after doing 6 hours of exercise and monitored diet then you are only making excuses that you aren't working hard is plain bull doodies! Especially for heavy women who tend to retain water...which by volume is probably close to fat!
Just another rant and very humble opinion...I didn't go to school and get some kind of personal trainer certificate ( I got a scar and kept my weight off for 5 years)...I am my own personal trainer with 5 years of experience in diet, nutrition and exercise! LOL
Thanks for posting this...As I felt EXACTLY the same way you did when I heard Jillian say what she did.... and it really pissed me off as well. Especially the inches thing...For us, we lose weight so fast in the first year post op that it CANNOT compare with a few months at a sweat farm...We spend an entire year or more losing weight slowly and we see what happens...It's the same for all of us! We are the proof that we do lose inches even when we have not dropped a pound in a few days or even weeks...We see it through the entire year...If I had known how these plateus or stalls really work as I do now that I lived thrrough15 months of them, I might have lasted longer on my pre op diets knowing that the weight loss was coming if I'd just give it two weeks!
Week two on the biggest loser there is ALWAYS a stall and both trainers decided to beat that stall by pushing them HARDER this season ...well hello!!! Of course they will lose weight if you push harder! Exercise burns fuel...No one can argue there! Is it healthy or not? I saw people puking and over working their bodies in week two just to lose some bigger numbers for the trainers... We as WLS people can't push ourselves so hard we vomit...I don't even think non WLS people should push that hard eitehr....I don't think that is healthy at all! It made me feel sick jus****ching them...
Then there was the " muscle does not weight more than fat "excuse""....While I agree with that...the volume of fat vs muscle is VERY VERY different. And if you weigh equal amounts fat and muscle on a scale and then put it in the body...The fat will look so much heavier and fluffy....So if you put the same volume of muscle and fat into a body the muscle will look like it weighs more! 10 lbs of marshmellows doesn't look the same as 10 lbs of sugar. So the statement is just a bit gray and shady for so many people who once believed that muscle is heavier. For all we know Joelle might be retaining water in her legs and still lost inches in her waist and other places...I didn't like Joelle any more than the rest of them and her attitude was crap...but the reaction of the trainers that no mater who you are, if you are showing no weight loss every week after doing 6 hours of exercise and monitored diet then you are only making excuses that you aren't working hard is plain bull doodies! Especially for heavy women who tend to retain water...which by volume is probably close to fat!
Just another rant and very humble opinion...I didn't go to school and get some kind of personal trainer certificate ( I got a scar and kept my weight off for 5 years)...I am my own personal trainer with 5 years of experience in diet, nutrition and exercise! LOL
Muscle and fat both WEIGH the same. After all, a pound of fat weighs the same as a pound of muscle. Muscle, however, is MORE DENSE, so if you replace a pound of fat with a pound of mucle you weigh the same but are physcially smaller.
If your goal is to lose weight (and that is the point of the show) then being the same weight would be a failure. That's why WLS is not a diet or a weight loss regimine. Its about healthy living forever.
If your goal is to lose weight (and that is the point of the show) then being the same weight would be a failure. That's why WLS is not a diet or a weight loss regimine. Its about healthy living forever.
Kathy,
I agree with your post. I had the same thoughts when I was watching the show. The year following my surgery there were SEVERAL times I went down a size in clothes and the scale was not moving. I think your idea about them directing the show to helping people while they are at home is an excellent idea!!
I agree with your post. I had the same thoughts when I was watching the show. The year following my surgery there were SEVERAL times I went down a size in clothes and the scale was not moving. I think your idea about them directing the show to helping people while they are at home is an excellent idea!!
I noticed that too. I gained several pounds when I started lifting weights, and my measurements are smaller. I also have these cute little biceps that I love, sort of fills in some of the bat wings. My son has been doing P90X and has gained weight, and all his clothes are too big. I was surprised to hear the trainers say what they did. I've also heard Jillian say if you don't 'throw up, you haven't worked hard enough. ??? Do you believe that? I always thought you were on the verge of a heart attack if you've made yourself puke. I'm glad I never had to train with her. Another thing - they always preach at people when they don't lose several pounds in a week, no matter how hard they work. All of us know, since we are experts at weight loss, that it drops in segments and nobody loses consistently week after week. I always gained a couple of pounds back and went a week or two before I dropped more weight. Before RNY, I'd be mad and go off my diet, not realizing that was normal. I swear ... I wish they'd be more careful about what they say because some people take it as gospel.
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