How do I start over?

http://www.obesityhelp.com/member/jhudson3/

That guy has a great plan that is helping me a LOT, very moderate and healthy, Just remember to eat MORE protein then the minimum 15:7 rule. He writes on the Grad board a lot lately.. you'll see his postings as saying something about "wagon plan" wagoneers"...etc. check him out, I think he could help you!

Leslee

Maybe I can help you start over. YOU have to do it. One thing is to start
recognizing the physical portion of the disease. I could've told you that
you don't care about bfast, don't start eating til mid day and have trouble
slamming on the brakes at night. That is how our disease works.

We start out ok. Then as life starts smacking us down, the serotonin level
goes down. We eat food (carb) to raise serotonin level ( and label it
emotional eating, because it makes us feel better. DUH, it is a chemical
feeling). OUR serotonin level doesn't just go up to a nice comfy level, it
shoots thru the roof, then a lil later, KA THUD, back in the basement.
Repeat cycle. Hence, the more carb we get, the more we want (need) to try to
level out the serotonin, which cannot be leveled for us because it's broken.
Of course, this is taking the blood sugar on a wild ride as well. You can
see the cycle.

SOOOOOOO, you do protein drink (30g each, no added milk, fruit, juice) , small non-carb meal (well, complex carb on
the side is ok, once you get out of the binge cycle) 2-3 hrs later, protein
drink, "sensible meal". Protein drink (esp mid-day, about 2-3pm in a normal
person day) and protein snack. Yet another protein drink
before dinner to lower volume or prevent grazing while prep. About 2 hrs
after dinner, when the S level starts to plummet, stick in a protein shake,
followed by a protein snack. Maybe like meat & cheese with grain cracker or
bread. You'd have to experiment & see if it triggers you. If the craving is really bad, you can do another protein.

All meals are over in 15 min. You take your food on a plate to the eating
place. You can eat anything but milk or sugar & white carbs (right now),
preferably normal fat, not fat free. You can have a big fluffy salad, if
you want. With breaded chicken, with normal dressing--I don't care. What I
don't want is white bread or saltines with it. See?

And of course, start sucking water 30 min after eating and get as much as
possible.

Does it sound do-able?

Vites go (roughly) like so:
iron + C with the first non-dairy, non-caffeine protein or meal (no eggs or whole grains)

1 multi
2 calc (if mine)
1 A-25
1 D-5
1 E

with next protein drink or snack

1 multi
2 calc
1 A-25
1 D-5
1 zinc
1 E

with next protein drink or food
another pair of calcium (or use UpCal D in all shakes EXCEPT the one taken near iron)

B12 any time

If you take HSN or B-complex, it can go with either multi-grouping.

And another 2-3 calcium before bed

And the usual set of "rules",
64+ oz of water, as in water
no drinking with meals
distinct "meals", not grazing
limit sugars to 6 g per MEAL
try to avoid "white" things, like bread, potatoes, rice, pasta

Good snacks:
cheese
beef sticks
jerkies
tuna
chicken (don't care about skin)
smoked salmon
other meats or fish
some protein bars

Issue yourself a portion in a Ziploc bag to take to work or on the go. Control your portion in advance, before you are hungry

It's all about rhythm. Creating a system that keeps you in a "I'm doing the
right thing almost all the time" frame of thinking. That alone helps keep
the serotonin level closer to smooth, esp for US, with the 100# of guilt we
carry at any weight. Ditch the guilt to keep the S level from dropping. If
you fall off the wagon, then by the next meal, you get back on. One slap to
correct yourself and stand back up, do the next one right. Keep the
serotonin level smooth, not whacking all up & down like a yo-yo. You can
ALWAYS insert another protein in the trouble spots until you get a grip on
them.

Great post Michelle, definitely a keeper!

You know, that has ALWAYS worked for me. But being distal, my normal is 5-6 shakes/day and so I have to go to more to accomplish this. I wrote it for regular proximal rny, but the concept works for anyone, actually.

Until last yeear. I let my fudge pudge go wayyy too long. Then even 3 months sugar free didn't drop a single pound. I was very freaked out, and had to take drastic measures to get off the 13# Fudge pudge (fudge = the gateway drug), so I did ONLY protein drinks, meat, fish or chicken (you can count on there not being much fish in that mix!) and water.

I've never gotten into the 100 calorie packs because mainly they ALL contain wheat, but I never though about 104 calories of protein drink being comparable!! Of course, my FAVORITE way to drink my protein drinks is with powdered milk (just a little) and fruit and 2 pkgs. of  Equal. That winds up being about 150 calories. Still not as bad as a 240 (empty) calorie candy bar!!  I have just never thought of it that way. I probably actually prefer the protein drinks, but it is not always "easy" to one like it is a candy bar! Thank GOD they have taken the "bulk candy" dispenser out of my favorite grocery store!! It was WAY too easy to pick up chocolate covered peanuts and eat them while I was shopping for fruit!! LOL I brought some protein mix without the powdered milk for today and I am going to try drinking that instead of grazing on fruit or candy all day. Thanks for all the positive comments and support. We need each other!!! Hugs,   Piggybabe