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oK SO IF ANY ONE USES THE DAILY PLATE OR JUST KNOWS ABOUT THIS STUFF?? FIRST QUESTION 1. SO I PUT IN WHAT I HAVE DONE FOR THE DAY AND IT SAYS I BURN LIKE 300 CALORIES JUST DOING LIGHT OFFICE WORK AT WORK??? IS THIS ACTUALLY TRUE??? SECOND QUESTION 2. SO IT PUTS IN MY NET CALORIES AND SAYS I CAN EAT AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT EVERYTIME I PUT IN MY ACTIVITY LEVEL....DOES THIS MEAN I NEED TO EAT MORE CALORIES BECAUSE I HAVE BURNED THEM DOING PRACTICALLY NOTHING?? AND DONE GET ME WRONG I DO HAVE 2 TODDLERS AND HAVE THEM ALL DAY BEFORE WORK AND I ALSO WILL DO SOME LIGHT WORKING OUT AT HOME WITH THE AB BALL OR PILATES OR TAE BO VIDEO TAPE

Yes you probably did burn at least 300 calories  extra, just because you didn't go to the gym, doesn't mean you don't burn calories by doing mundane things.  BUT that doesn't mean you should eat again necessarily.  It depends on what your goals are and your metabolism.  If your goals are to lose more weight, then no...don't eat again.   Also, those online tools are just estimations, it does not take into consideration your own metabolism.....OR malabsorbtion caused by your surgery.  I honestly can't use an online calorie estimator for anything, it is completely worthless for a DSer, because if I ate 2000 or 3000 calories it doesn't mean I'd absorb that many calories....the same holds true for a RNYer to a little bit less of an extent.  What you need to do is to discover how many calories you need in a day to lose and eventually maintain.   I can lose weight by eating 3000-4000 calories a day with 150 grams or less of those calories coming from carbs.    If i want to maintain, I need to eat at least 4000-5000 (or more) calories a day, and 200-300 grams of carbs (some of them simple) to do it.   But  I am a man, I weight lift, and I had a surgery that causes lots of malabsorbtion.  You have to find your levels....unfortunately it may take some trial and error. Scott

Scott - I realize you're a man, weight lift, and had a DS; but is your pouch or capacity to hold food much larger than a RNY?  What are you eating to get in that many calories in a day?  I've seen others in this forum post they also eat 3000+ calories as post-ops and I'm wondering how that is physically possible.  I know there's no way I could physically eat that many calories in a day, unless I was either eating constantly and/or eating some very high calories foods.   I do good most days to get in 1000 calories and I'm not starving at all. Just curious - not judging at all.  Just curious as to how different everyone is as post-ops. 

Thats the one reason l like this forum ...no RNY vs DS bull crap...we're just all post ops trying to figure out what works for us....so I don't take the question as a judgment at all. With the DS, I have a larger stomach (no pouch) and more malabsorbtion then the promimal RNY (I say proximal because very distal RNYs sometimes have the same common channel length as a DSer...75 to 100 cm).    Because I have a shorter common channel, I malabsorb about 80 percent of the fat I eat, and 50 percent of the protein, unforunately simple carbs are not malabsorbed.  The larger stomach allows me to eat more food at a sitting, but I also tend to eat more times during the day  too.  For instance, this morning fo breakfast, I had 4 eggs scrambled with 2 slices of cheese, about an hour later I had a small package of sunflower seeds and 2 fried chicken cutlets (about 8 oz).   I tend to eat a very high fat diet for several reasons.....1) it tastes good...i like regular dressings and mayo and meats with a bit of fat on them 2) the extra fat keeps things moving in my digestive system.  Unlike the perception of the DS, if I do not eat enough fat during the day, I tend to have harder BMs....can you say OUCH...lol.   Also during the weight loss phase, the extra fat kind of helps keep plateaus away.  3) I try to get in enough good fats, to keep my good cholesterol levels up.  In general my cholesterol  is really really low....my total cholesterol on my last blood work is less then 100 if I remember correctly.   Because fat is so calorie dense, I guess it skews my numbers a bit. In addition to the fat, I try to eat about 150 to 200 grams of protein a day to support my weight lifting efforts.  Honestly, I need to get a protein shake, because this has been a very difficult number for me to reach daily.  If i wasn't weight lifting I'd be ok with 120 to 150 grams of protein a day......but I want more muscle development.   Added to the fat and protein....i eat lots of carbs.  When I'm trying to lose weight, I will go lower carb (under 150 grams of carbs a day), but when I'm trying to maintain, I need to eat over 200 grams of carbs a day...whi*****ludes sugary items.  Because of my activity level and the malabsorbtion of my surgery, this is kind of the "enjoyable" part  of eating for me....I do like sugar.  Now so you know....I do keep very close eyes on my weight..and fluctuate from about 196 to 202 lbs.  When I go to the high end of my weight flux...i drop my carbs till I'm back to my low.  Honestly, I can't wait to have plastics and have all this loose skin removed from my body.  although, i can only assume that it will make a 1 or 2 lb weight regain more uncomfortable then it is now.  Because when I am at my high (202) ....it feels like none of my cloths fit right, and when I'm at my low.....all is right with my world.  Whats weird about that is that it's only a 6 lb difference.....at almost 500 lbs when I lost my first 60 lbs, I didn't even change  clothing size....lol...weird right? So when all is said and done during the day, I normally eat over 3000 calories...some days as high as 6000 (rare but it does happen).  I hoe this answers your question. Scott ..

Thank you so much for your explanation Scott!  I learned a bit about DS that I didn't know.   Good for you in figuring out what works for you. 

I'm 16 months-post op RNY and starting the maintenance phase, and I've wondered a lot about how many calories vs. how much exercise to do. So far, I just concentrate on protein and fiber and don't worry a lot about calories, but my nut says most female RNY'ers should get between 1200 and 1400 calories a day, unless you do a lot of exercise, and in that event you should increase the calories. Sometimes I track my food and exercise at sparkpeople.com - that site also tells you how much you're burning doing housework, walking, etc. I was surprised how much more you burn just by walking uphill instead of on a level surface. I was also a little pissed to see that I have to do three times as much exercise since I've lost so much weight to get the same result. Oh well.