Protein?????
Thanks all for the replys to my last post about my big weight gain.
Im going to get myself in gear and get back to losing this weight.TOMORROW!
Not sure what the best proteins are.....and what should i avoid?
Im guilty of not following drs orders from the start so I have no idea what I really should be eating.
Also im an exercise virgin......wow i need serious help....lol
You probably should get a consult with a NUT to go over what you need. Some say whey protein is best, others swear by soy. Different strokes for different folks.
Start reading labels and educating yourself about the amount of protein, fat, carbs, and sugar in foods. I spent over 2 hours in Walmart reading every single label after I had my surgery.
Avoid - Simple Carbs, and avoid isn't a strong enough word - DONT eat them!!! that would be "white foods" rice, bread, potatoes, french fries (lol), etc....
You want to fill your pouch with protein. Meat, eggs, low fat cheese. I eat a lot of Tuna fish on whole wheat Ritz crackers, for you... leave out the cracker. In restaurants, eat chicken salads w/o their dressings, bring your own ff or sf dressings. Things like that.
Exercise - oohhh, I'm not the one to give advice about that. I'm sooo bad at exercise. I'm sure that someone else will post about it though.
I'd suggest tracking everything you eat on fitday.com or something like that. It's good to see what you've eatten and learn from it. I also use it to search for different things to eat.
Congrats for getting yourself back on track!!!!
Any of these are what I use:
1.) Champion ProScore 100 choco + 8 oz water + ice, blended (hand blender or Magic Bullet).
2.) Champion Pure Whey Stack choco + 6-8 oz water, shaken.
3.) IDS vanilla-cinnamon + "glop" of DaVinci sugar free caramel sauce + 8 oz water + ice, blended.
4.) the PWS chco + the van-cin (50/50) in about 10 oz ho****er, stirred or hand blender.
Lately I've been adding a shake of cinnamon to my hot ones since cinnamon fights belly fat.
I always put 1 scoop of UpCal D powder in (500mg calcium citrate, 250 IU of vit D3).
I'm kinda with ya on the exercise thing. I'm a walking example of good nutritional health, all the right vites, water, protein, labs that do not look like any WLS labs, but exercise? Ewww. Why would I want to SWEAT? My surgeon knows I consider it a 4-letter word, but he only wants me to do 20 min a day (please) for cardio health, since I hold my wt by doing all of the above and normal movement. Never was a couch potato type. They say "busy" doesn't count for burning calories. So, maybe I don't. He IS right about doing something for my heart, tho. I'm getting older and it'sa muscle and I really should red line it now and then to keep it running right.
My criteria for protein:
to get 30g of protein it has to deliver:
less than 200 cal when made with water
less than 5g sugar
(don't care about fats, but not much is inthe good ones)
make up in 4-8 oz of water
not be a meal replacement (but be a real protein)
taste good to ME (another way to read that is: be chocolate!)
I prefer whey. I use isolates and blends. Blends are better.
I do not touch soy or rice or any of the veggie proteins.
I eat protein food only a as a pouch-filler, since I'm notvery interested in meat or fish. I don't count any food proteins toward my daily total. I do 180g in protein supplement (that's 6 x 30g) and that helps me maintain control over what goes (and does not) go into my face.
1.) Champion ProScore 100 choco + 8 oz water + ice, blended (hand blender or Magic Bullet).
2.) Champion Pure Whey Stack choco + 6-8 oz water, shaken.
3.) IDS vanilla-cinnamon + "glop" of DaVinci sugar free caramel sauce + 8 oz water + ice, blended.
4.) the PWS chco + the van-cin (50/50) in about 10 oz ho****er, stirred or hand blender.
Lately I've been adding a shake of cinnamon to my hot ones since cinnamon fights belly fat.
I always put 1 scoop of UpCal D powder in (500mg calcium citrate, 250 IU of vit D3).
I'm kinda with ya on the exercise thing. I'm a walking example of good nutritional health, all the right vites, water, protein, labs that do not look like any WLS labs, but exercise? Ewww. Why would I want to SWEAT? My surgeon knows I consider it a 4-letter word, but he only wants me to do 20 min a day (please) for cardio health, since I hold my wt by doing all of the above and normal movement. Never was a couch potato type. They say "busy" doesn't count for burning calories. So, maybe I don't. He IS right about doing something for my heart, tho. I'm getting older and it'sa muscle and I really should red line it now and then to keep it running right.
My criteria for protein:
to get 30g of protein it has to deliver:
less than 200 cal when made with water
less than 5g sugar
(don't care about fats, but not much is inthe good ones)
make up in 4-8 oz of water
not be a meal replacement (but be a real protein)
taste good to ME (another way to read that is: be chocolate!)
I prefer whey. I use isolates and blends. Blends are better.
I do not touch soy or rice or any of the veggie proteins.
I eat protein food only a as a pouch-filler, since I'm notvery interested in meat or fish. I don't count any food proteins toward my daily total. I do 180g in protein supplement (that's 6 x 30g) and that helps me maintain control over what goes (and does not) go into my face.
Michelle
RNY, distal, 10/5/94
P.S. My year + long absence has NOTHING to do with my WLS, or my type of WLS. See my profile.
I don't pay much attention to calories, but I did figure it up once, and I get about 900 in protein supps (that's in the powder, only cuz I only use water) and about that much in food.
I do 30g of a low quality collagen FIRST thing, before I get my eyes open. Blech. THen I assemble myself, play with cats, etc and then have my first one with coffee and the paper (Grr, not wise to disturb me in this moment!), then food, then another with my iron an hour or so later.
Then lunch or snack, and if I'm hungry, a drink right before it or if I'm not, 30-45 minutes later. Repeat. And then one just before dinner and another after, usually.
I do 6 drinks, 4 meals. I'm not overly fond ofeither meat or fish, vegetable proteins are very low on the bioavailability list, so while I LIKE them, they wouldn't go far toward meeting my needs. I have a radical distal, so the best I can figure is 10% of eaten protein, so I just don't count it at all.
Because I do what I do, I see the results of low protein every day and it scares me, so that's how I do again tomorrow what I did today.
I do 30g of a low quality collagen FIRST thing, before I get my eyes open. Blech. THen I assemble myself, play with cats, etc and then have my first one with coffee and the paper (Grr, not wise to disturb me in this moment!), then food, then another with my iron an hour or so later.
Then lunch or snack, and if I'm hungry, a drink right before it or if I'm not, 30-45 minutes later. Repeat. And then one just before dinner and another after, usually.
I do 6 drinks, 4 meals. I'm not overly fond ofeither meat or fish, vegetable proteins are very low on the bioavailability list, so while I LIKE them, they wouldn't go far toward meeting my needs. I have a radical distal, so the best I can figure is 10% of eaten protein, so I just don't count it at all.
Because I do what I do, I see the results of low protein every day and it scares me, so that's how I do again tomorrow what I did today.
Michelle
RNY, distal, 10/5/94
P.S. My year + long absence has NOTHING to do with my WLS, or my type of WLS. See my profile.
Some folks swear by protein supplements - I think a few of them have already chimed in. Me, I sweat by getting all my protein from food. I get great satisfaction and satiation from eating food than I get with protein supplements, but that's just how my body works. In terms of good proteins, here's some of the things I eat regularly:
- light yogurt
- cottage cheese w/ a couple tablespoons of sugar-free preserves
- a couple pieces of string cheese (sometimes with an apple or some whole grain crackers)
- open face turkey sandwich (1 slice whole-grain bread, 3-4 slices turkey breast deli meat, 1 slice low-fat cheese, maybe some sprouts or leaf lettuce if it's available)
- non-fat lattes w/ sugar-free syrup for flavor (a large NF latte from Starbucks has ~20 grams of protein)
- non-fat milk w/ high-fiber cereal like Kellogg's AllBran Buds (helps keep things moving, if you get my meaning)
- Lean Cuisine or Weigh****chers SmartOnes - I look for the ones that have at least 20 grams of protein and less than 35 grams of carbs; they do offer some carb-smart options too if you really need to limit carbs (I work out a lot, so need the carbs to support my exercise habit)
- broiled fish (salmon, trout, snapper - whatever looks good at the grocery store!)
- roasted pork tenderloin (usually very moist and tender, sits well with my pouch)
- steak (filet mignon when I can afford it, Delmonico when I'm being bad)
- homemade chili made w/ ground turkey (make a double batch, freeze in small containers - great for lunch or a quick dinner)
As far as exercising, start off with something simple, like walking 30 minutes per day. Once you get into a regular routine, increase the time, or your pace, or both. If you can afford a membership to the gym or the local Y, I'd encourage you to give that a try. My gym has great fitness coaches that helped me develop a plan, and it didn't cost me anything other than my regular membership fees. For me, exercise is going to be the key to keeping off the weight I lost, so I'd encourage you to work on making this a habit!
Good luck on your continuing journey -
Kellie
I never used protein drinks--can't stand them--but got my protein from animal sources--eggs, fish, beef, lamb, buffalo, pork, and chicken. And milk. But the thing is to eat the protein you can eat. I don't do chicken well. So I tend to eat more red meat. But I balance that with eating a lot of fish and eggs. Pork is okay depending on how it is cooked, and it is as lean as chicken if you get the right cut. But I'd worry less about the fat content and more on can you get it down and keep it down!
And for exercise, yes I do it and I think it made a difference in the weight loss. If nothing else it bolsters your committment to eating right--don't want all that exercise to be for naught! But at some point it really is more about health than weight loss. I don't like to sweat either, so I do swimming and water aerobics on the weekend and use a stationary recumbant bike during the week. I have bad knees--and dislike having to get dressed to go out for a walk in the morning--so the bike really helps.
But whatever you chose to do, the thing is to do it.
Good luck,
Sally