Low Vitamin D

Michele T.
on 9/8/07 3:03 pm - Scottsdale, AZ
I had RNY 8/24/05.  My company changed insurance companies and my surgeon doesn't take the new insurance.  So I went to my PCP to get my labs done.  He says that every thing is within normal range, except my Vitamin D at , 25-Hydroxy, at 21.7.  His recommendation, take a supplement and get more sun. I've been having terrible problems with insomnia and am tired all the time.  I take Ambien, it works for 3 or 4 hours and I'm wide awake again.  Ambien CR works the same-- no surprise there.  I also get dizzy a lot-- mostly when going from laying to standing, no matter how slow I take it.  My other odd symptom is that I sweat a lot, but only on my head.  My face and hair will get wringing wet for no particular reason.  Today I was vaccuming when it happened.  But when I work out, I sweat a normal amount. From what I can find on the net, the primary symptoms are bone pain and muscle weakness, which I don't have.  Has anyone else who's had low D had similar symptoms to mine?   Michele
Butterfly Reborn
on 9/9/07 12:31 am

Michele,

The following is from Vitalady.  The recommended levels are at the bottom.  I wasn't that high on Vitamin D but my labwork indicated that I was in range for someone who was supplementing.  My hemotologist wasn't concerned at all (that doesn't mean he shouldn't be - 1 doctor can't know it all).  It's great that you're doing your research.

Part of the problem for RNYs is absorbing oil based vitamins.  Vitalady does sell DRY vitamins which absorb better for us. 

Here is the information with her website address as well.  You can also e-mail her as she is always happy to help!

I hope this helps you! Lab Tests and Ranges for Gastric Bypass Patients by Vitalady [Edit Post] on August 9, 2007 4:07 pm Published

Not to be construed as medical advice, this list includes labs we have had performed as gastric bypass patients:

* 10231 - comprehensive metabolic profile (sodium, potassium, chloride, glucose,BUN, creatinine, calcium, total protein, albumin, total bilirubin, alkaline phosphatase, aspartate aminotransferase)

* 84134 - pre-albumin

* 7600 - lipid profile (cholesterol, HDL, LDL, triglycerides, chol/HDL ratio)

* 10256 - (hep panel, includes ALT (SPGT) & GGT)

* 593 - LDH

* 718 - phosphorous – inorganic

* 83735 - magnesium

* 905 - uric acid

*7444 - thyroid panel (T3U, T4, FTI, TSH)

* 1759 - hemogram with platelets

* 7573 - iron, TIBC, % sat

* 457 - ferritin

* 945 - zinc

* 921 - vitamin A

* 680 – D (25-hydroxy)

* 4052 - vitamin B-1 (thiamin)

* 84207 – vitamin B-6 (Pyridoxine)

* 7065 - B-12 & folate

* 83970 - serum intact PTH

*31789 - homocysteine, cardio  

* 83921 - MMA 

* 367 cortisol

* 84255 – selenium

For diabetics: *496 - HEMOGLOBIN A1C

DIAGNOSIS CODES: 269.2 hypovitaminosis

244.9 hypothryoidism

268 vitamin D deficiency

250.0 diabetes

401.9 hypertension

276.9 electrolyte and fluid disorders

579.8 calcium malabsorption

579.8 intestinal malabsorption

272.0 hypercholesterolemia

275.40 calcium deficiency

266.2 cyanocobalamin deficiency

280.9 iron-deficiency anemia

269.3 zinc deficiency

281.0 pernicious anemia

281.2 folate deficiency anemia

281.1 other B12 deficiency anemia

285.9 anemia, unspecified  

By preference, do not use *579.3 surgical malabsorption* **************************************************************************************************

This is NOT medical advice, just my own targets for the main blood levels I watch. 

 Protein:  7's

 albumin: 4's

 pre-albumin: 20-30's

 iron: 80-100

 ferritin: 200-300

 hgb: 12+

 hct: 36+

  vit A: 60- 80 

 vit D: 60-80 

 calcium: 9-0-9.4 

 PTH:  30-40

 B1: mid-  to top- range

 B6: mid-  to top- range

 mag: mid-range

 zinc: mid-range

 B12: 1000 + 

 folate: 10-20

  AST (sgot): below 40

 ALT (sgpt): below 40

 We usually want to "meet or beat" pre-op levels.  In some cases, higher is better, and in other cases (cholesterol, PTH for example), lower is better.

 The only things *I* don't mind being on the high end of out of range are ferritin and B12.  But that applies to ME. 

 My doctors don't show interest in any of these until I am out of range. *I* am interested when I begin heading that direction.

 Thanks,   Michelle Vitalady, Inc. ™ http://www.vitalady.com

I have two sides to my brain - a right side and a left side.  The trouble is sometimes there is nothing left in the right side and nothing right in the left side.
Post-Op RNY 6.5 years
HW 252  GW 140 CW 140

jen41766
on 9/9/07 4:17 am - Castle Rock, CO
Are you currently supplementing?  My nutritionist is very explicit that I take Calcium Citrate WITH D. 
Jackie B
on 9/10/07 8:17 am - Clinton Township, MI
I went to a bone doctor because my vitamin D was low also, they told me to take one vitamin D-3, 1000 IU per day. Jackie
vitalady
on 9/10/07 11:10 am - Puyallup, WA
RNY on 10/05/94
Low vit D is an expectable result of WLS. Just last week on Yahoo Grads, 2 ppl were dx with rickets (extremely low vit D). Not rare.

While some are taking some D3 in their calcium, we start our proximals AND bands on 10,000 IU of dry form D3. (that's two 5,000's) and even so, it may not be enough. The sun might raise your level 2-3 pts, maybe even 12 pts, but if you are 40 points below normal, that's not much help.

Dry form vit D3 comes in as high a dose as 50,000 units (and is still a teensy pill). The rx vit D 50,000 is vit D-TWO and it's in oil, so fairly useless to us.

being a proximal rny does not save you from malabsorption of the fat soluble vites. A, D & E still need to be addressed sparately from your multis, calcium citrate + D and your iron + C.

Yes, some bone or joint pain, sluggishness and moodiness acan be among the signs of low D. The bright side is that once you start taking a high enough dose of the RIGHT D, you can actually feel a hair better in a week. Not like a power surger or anything, but just "less bad".

Michelle
RNY, distal, 10/5/94 

P.S.  My year + long absence has NOTHING to do with my WLS, or my type of WLS. See my profile.

Happy_Loser
on 9/11/07 1:03 am - Central, IL

I was taking 1000-1200 iu daily.  When I got tested, my D, 25-Hydroxy, was 22. I got some of the 50,000 iu capsules from vitalady.com and took daily for 7 weeks and it bumped my D up to 99. I now take 5,000 iu daily and will be tested again after 3 months to see if I am sustaining the gain. Deb

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