I am a little mad here

Hey I totally agree too .. And do not stop posting to those kind of post . So what she got pizzed off .. she should be pizzed at herself .. DO people not understand that we have been there .. did it done it .. And a diet to loose weight before surgery .. she should be so lucky .. this type of actions confirm to me that once again .. there needs to be more psychriatric evals done ...to make sure that people are ready for this type of surgical intervention and lifestyle change .. possibly she is not ready .. to say she wants to fight the insurance rather than loose the weight .. Keep on posting girlfriend . One day they will listen .. Big hugs, Natalie

Laura, I read the thread you're referring to, and I agree, it became a "little" catty on it. However, I empathized with her frustration because some of us are metabolically unable to lose "required" amounts of weight prior to surgery. Getting a lawyer would have been too much effort for me. An intelligent conversation with my surgeon and NUT should be enough, at least that's all it took for me. I wouldn't have been able to have had the surgery if my team had required it of me. I specifically asked that of the surgeon and the docs know that there are some cases out there that CANNOT lose the 10%(I have/had severe insulin resistance, as well as PCOS). I think it became a little ugly when the tough love showed up and (I believe)you stated we ALL have to do it...not true, but I heard and understood your stance. Whatever works to get started on a new healthy life, that's what should be done. Julie

By the way, that was exactly the reason I didn't reply yesterday. Rather than giving good advice from all sides, it turned into an arctic blast toward YOU, and I didn't feel the need to be involved in it. If people choose to attack the advisor, rather than the advice, I want no part of it. Don't let the attacks stop you from posting, your advice is going to help someone at sometime, and isn't that what it's all about...paying it forward? Julie

Yes, it IS about paying it forward! I believe that too. But you saw how bad it got, and caddy is exactly the word I was using when I was telling my husband about it. That is why I got pissed, because I felt attacked even tho I was not the only one saying to her that she is not the only person to have to meet this requirement. I saw that she has other issues that may be inhibitting her weight loss. Is the surgery going to help then? If her dr's feel that she can still lose the weight, maybe that is why they want her to do it? I have no problem with her protecting her rights. Why would I, and that was a stupid thing for one poster to say to me. My only issue is not that she is wanting to do this, but that I was the only one people were ganging up on. I looked at the post again, and they spell out my name, not Rhonda or the others who supported what I said. I have had to make alot of changes, just like everyone. I knew that coming in to this 3 yrs ago. It took me year just to get all of the requirements out of the way, for God's sake! Since the surgery, just as recently as last week, I found out I am chronically anemic, I have had to have my gall bladder removed, and I am also low on Calcium and get horrible, extreme leg cramps. I am on more meds now than before the surgery. Am I crying about it? HELL NO! Because anything is worth the sacrifice to me. I do what they tell me, and luckily I have had great results. Even tho I have new health issues, I would rather be this way than how I was before. No self esteem at all, and I mean I HATED myself, pre-diabetic, hbp, sleep anemia, blah, blah, blah. Now, I love myself, I am proud of myself, I am thinner, happier, and yes, healthier! This surgery gave me the courage to go back to school, and because of this surgery and my new food requirements, I went to Culinary school and I am now a chef! I will be starting at a fine dining restaurant next week on the first. This surgery should empower us, show us that we can do anything, including losing the extra person we were carrying with us. That is what it did for me. I want her to feel that too, because it is such an incredible feeling!! I never knew it would affect me this way, but I am so happy it did, because I actually like myself now. I would never have said that before. I want that for anyone who wants this procedure. Ok, I am done ranting again. I really appreciate all the support I have gotten here. I did not expect it. All of you women are awesome!!! Much love, Laura

The original poster is hanging her spots today. I am almost certain yesterday she said she couldn't lose ten percent. Today, she said she already had and was fighting for those that can't. She has hired a lawyer. Shaking my head. Loris

Laura I'm so sorry to hear you got dumped on by someone. So not fair. I didn't see itl was in on another board....I have been hanging her and the FL board. I was not required to loose anything but bewteen the first seminar meeting I went to and my visit to see my surgeon I lost 15 lbs without trying. Got lucky I guess but I did have to do 6 months of visit to my primary and weigh in...then I had the usual pre evaluation, cardio, physc and nutrionist all which was a nusance but important. I was very pleased my surgeon insisted on attendance at his seminars and pre evals, this game him the oppotunity to know I was dead serious since it took me 3 hrs to get there. I have no complaints I had to provide 6 months diet history etc, it was no big deal. You know when my friends on this board ask a question I know its because they are having a bad time and need answers, we are pretty regulars here and if I can help I do....however if I went through the trouble to sit and type my post I would be as upset as you to think it was not appreciated. But heck comeback here more often and I am sure you won't find the negativity here, we are all trying to stay of top of everything and share what works for us.

That is exactly why I don't post on the main board. It has changed tremendously since I had my surgery. A lot of them seem to think they are entitled to this surgery and it should just be handed to them on a silver platter. Then the wt should just fall off and they never have to change their eating habits. There is a guy that shows up at the fitness center pool almost daily. He had surgery about 12 wks ago. He had lost (I think) around 140 pounds B4 surgery. So he has been pretty dedicated. However, he admitted to eating fudge at Christmas time, and he eats bread all the time. I tried to tell him he needs to really make use of the honeymoon period because after 1 year, the wt loss may come to a screeching halt and then he will really have to work to lose. His attitude is "that won't happen to me." So I've given up. He's pretty self-rightous about it. We'll see how he does in the long run. It's sad that the newbies won't take our words to heart and try to learn from our experiences and/or mistakes.

Hi Laura, I also got blasted on that same posting. She said I was judgemental and couldn't believe how "people" (meaning me) forget where they came from, blah blah blah. I was reminded why I hadn't responded to that kind of post for ages... years, even. They know what they want to hear and if you don't say it, they flame you. Oh well... I had to lose the 10% she was talking about and I have been there, but she didn't want to hear it. I was really pissed too, but didn't even respond anymore on that thread because I have enough damn drama in my real life without dealing with that kind of junk here. Hugs, Laurie