4 years out what is this?

the last few days (after i finish my lunch( several hours later i have my snack of yogurt and i have ate yogurt for years but now it comes right back up and i have a pain in the pouch area. feels like it is stuck and then up it comes, is this possibly needing scoped to open it up ???? it feels like lunch is there for a long time now. i hate this dumping !!! never had this problem before any ideas??????????????????

Gosh, I dont know. I have heard a few times today of long timers having problems with dumping after some foods not bothering them for years. I sure hope you find out whats happening I would go to my sergeon. I'm going thru something too...i dont dumb never have..Im 2.5 yrs PO since april 6 when I eat ( not every meal ) i get horriable pain in belly and back. I went to my PCP Dr , he ruled out kidney stones and pancres problems...now wants me to go for a colonoscopy. He wont give me my referal to my sergeon till i go for the colon test. I Cant figure what this is but im paying myself to go see my sergeon tomm. It doesnt happen when i eat the same food...1 time i can with no pain next time pain...i mean level 10 pain. Beats me...I'm baffled and ready to find out all the answers no matter what tests it takes.! oh yes and with the pain comes swelling around the waist...i cant have anthing tight around me at all...have to unzip my jeans. Good luck to finding out your problem but dont wait ! cha

Hi Cha! Have you had your gallbladder removed yet. That sure sounds like gallbladder symptoms. I had mine out in 04. For some reason rapid weight loss leads to gallbladder problems. I was on weigh****chers and had lost about 65 pounds when I had to have mine out. It took them nearly 2 weeks to diagnose me. They thought it was acid reflux at first and gave me some pills for that. Then they did x-rays and a CAT scan later and found out I had gallstones. That is the WORST pain I've ever had in my life. I remember it happening at work one morning and I thought I was having a heart attack. I hope you get it figured out soon. Good luck! amber 299/141/140 -158 (1 more to my goal)

Vomiting is not normal. you need to talk to your Dr. I do not believe it is just dumping, but only your Dr can say for sure. here is an interesting article on dumping. The Physiology of Dumping Syndrome Dumping syndrome is usually divided into "early" and "late" phases - the two phases have separate physiologic causes and will be described separately. In practical fact, a patient usually experiences a combination of these events and there is no clear-cut division between them. Early dumping is caused by the high osmolarity of simple carbohydrates in the bowel. The various types of sugar all have small molecules, so that a gram of (for example) sucrose has MANY more molecules than a gram of protein, creating a higher concentration (number of molecules per cc) from simple sugars than from other foods. This matters because, inside the body, fluid shifts will generally go toward the higher concentration of molecules. So, if a patient consumes a bite of milk chocolate (lots of sugar), when it gets to the Roux limb it will quickly "suck" a significant amount of fluid into the bowel. This rapid filling of the small bowel causes it to be stretched (which causes cramping pain). This also causes the activation of hormonal and nerve responses that cause the heart to race (palpitations) and cause the individual to become clammy and sweaty. Vomiting or diarrhea may follow as the intestine tries to quickly rid itself of this "irritant." Late dumping has to do with the blood sugar level. The small bowel is very effective in absorbing sugar, so that the rapid absorption of a relatively small amount of sugar can cause the glucose level in the blood to "spike" upward. The pancreas responds to this glucose challenge by "cranking up" its output of insulin. Unfortunately, the sugar that started the whole cycle was such a small amount that it does not sustain the increase in blood glucose, which tends to fall back down at about the time the insulin surge really gets going. These factors combine to produce hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) which causes the individual to feel weak, sleepy, and profoundly fatigued. Late dumping is the mechanism by which sugar intake can create low blood sugar, and it is also a way for gastric bypass patients to get into a vicious cycle of eating. If the patient takes in sugar or a food that is closely related to sugar (simple carbohydrates like rice, pasta, potatoes) they will experience some degree of hypoglycemia in the hour or two after eating. The hypoglycemia stimulates appetite, and it's easy to see where that is going.... The reason that sugar does not cause dumping in non-operated people is that the stomach, pancreas, and liver work together to prepare nutrients (or sugar) before they reach the small intestine for absorption. The stomach serves as a reservoir that releases food downstream only at a controlled rate, avoiding sudden large influxes of sugar that can occur after a Roux-en-Y. The released food is also mixed with stomach acid, bile, and pancreatic juice to control the chemical makeup of the stuff that goes downstream and avoid all the effects outlined above. Obviously, surgeons consider dumping syndrome to be a beneficial effect of gastric bypass - it seems to be important to provide quick and reliable negative feedback for intake of the "wrong" foods. In practice, most patients do NOT experience full-blown dumping more than once or twice. Most simply say that they have "lost their taste" for sweets. Of course, this is always a great topic to ask patients about directly, so you may want to ask about it at our support group in person, or in a support group online.

ok i have given a long thought afer driving home for an hour. i hurt right after eating lunch in the pouch area. and both days i have had steamed veggies and chicken strips from butterball, very tender, then at snack time my yogurt, first i thought maybe they put the wrong yogurt in the low fat, low sugar and that this one was loaded with the sugar , but now i am leaning towards the lunch i had both days. i will choose something different tomorrow and see. i still have blood sugar spikes when i eat something to sweet but it is different. this is like it is stuck in the pouch and then the yogurt cant get in and wants out of there putting it nicely. i haven't had any serious problems and have been lucky , but can't the opeing close a little at this stage? where you may need scoped:? just considering all the things that may go wrong in this journey at this time/ i have severe bloating of the lower ab that has been occuring lately too , sure stumped i guess i may have to call the pcp to see if it is serious or something i am eating/ thank you all you all never cease to amaze me with being there when i need those emails and responses hugs! p.s. i hope this board DON'T TAKE ON THE NEW LOOK AS I AM STILL NOT USING THE MAIN BOARD TO COMPLICATED FOR THIS OLD LADY AND IT ISN'T INVITING TO SOMEONE RESEACHING NOT SEEING THOSE FREINDLY FACES ANY MORE JUST WORDS. SORRY MY OPINION HUGS!

I too have had the bloating my is all over my stomach. I go to the dr on the 23 to fnd out why. I just had aout 13 blood test done.

don't kill the messanger, but these boards will switch over to the new system too in June....The more I've been on the main board however the more I've gotten used to it and am more comfortable with it. Give it a try. That was a really good response on the dumping question. I've been having problems too, but I'm getting over the flu. Yogurt made me big time!!! didn't have probs before either! Pat

All I can do is add my experience, I have no idea if it has any relevance or not. In January I had emergency gallbladder surgery. Ever since I cannot eat my beloved sugar free chocolate jello (loaded with protein from Anywhey!). Now when I eat it, it not only comes back up, it FLIES up my throat, projectile style. After trying to eat it three times now since January, I give up. My PCP just shrugged and said, "don't eat that anymore". Well DUH! But I sure would like to know why the hell pudding won't stay down, ya know? I also cannot drink a glass of milk, but thats not new. I haven't been able to do that since I had gastric bypass. I just wonder if all of this is some weird form of lactose intolerance? Michele Barf-o-Matic

I went to my WLS Dr today and feel so much better now...just talking to him, he thinks it is 1 of 2 things. An internal hernia or superior mesenteric artery syndrome. He wants me to go ahead and have the colon test but expect to hear back from me to set up a surgery so he can go in to fix this pain. Its an easy operation and well worth it. He said anytime we 2 year or more out have problems, get in touch with your WLS dr. as pain at this level can be important ...not like gas in the first months. So keep in touch with your Drs. and keep up on your vitimins. Have a great day. Cha

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