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michele1
on 5/6/24 10:05 am
Revision on 07/07/15
Topic: Pain

Thanks in advance! I am nine years out from revision from band to sleeve. No issues until I vomited last week (haven't vomited since surgery) now I have pain middle to near ribs and stomach hurts when deep breaths, hick-ups ect.

Lapband 6/08 90 pounds lost!  Band slip and esophageal dilation diagnosed 5/15

LapBand removed, hernia repaired and sleeved 7/8/15

 

   

Grim_Traveller
on 5/4/24 8:40 am
RNY on 08/21/12
Topic: RE: One Year Out From Sleeve Surgery - Is This Typical?

Things do change by about the one year mark. We can certainly eat more. And after watching everything we eat, closely, for a year, diet fatigue sets in.

There is usually some underlying reason why we became obese, and that often goes unaddressed -- at least in part. And obesity is usually many years of bad decisions and habits. And that doesn't just go away after one year of doing really well.

This is hard. Really hard. It is literally a daily battle. I have some awful eating days. The trick is to not let a day or two become 10 or a hundred.

My hardest days were several years in. It took a while to really get control again. It's hard. The surgery is still there to help. But after a year it becomes more about you, and less about the surgery. You can have the smallest stomach in the world and still gain weight.

6'3" tall, male.

Highest weight was 475. RNY on 08/21/12. Current weight: 198.

M1 -24; M2 -21; M3 -19; M4 -21; M5 -13; M6 -21; M7 -10; M8 -16; M9 -10; M10 -8; M11 -6; M12 -5.

Freewheeler
on 5/3/24 3:28 pm
Topic: One Year Out From Sleeve Surgery - Is This Typical?

Greetings,

So I am one year out from sleeve surgery and I am just curious if what I am experiencing is normal.

I seem to have more tolerance now for foods and don't get the foamy mouth like I used to if I ate or drank too much. Granted I am not trying to push myself to try to trigger the "foamies", but I sort of liked that I had that feeling to stop eating or I may throw up. It was like added assistance for me to maintain things.

I am just wondering if I am at that crossroads now - where some people start gaining the weight back because the stomach has now adapted (I know the stomach doesn't stretch back to what it was) and having more tolerance now for foods - people can fall back into their old patterns if they are not careful.

I am still losing weight slowly, but that is of course better than gaining weight back slowly.

I am so happy that I had the surgery and I wish I did it 10 years ago, but I am curious to hear feedback from other people when they were at their one year mark.

Thanks!

FW

catwoman7
on 4/21/24 4:59 pm
RNY on 06/03/15
Topic: RE: Expired Optifast Question

I've used expired protein powders - as you said, unless it a year or more.

RNY 06/03/15 by Michael Garren (Madison, WI)

HW: 373 SW: 316 GW: 150 LW: 138 CW: 163

hollykim
on 4/21/24 1:49 pm - Nashville, TN
Revision on 03/18/15
Topic: RE: Expired Optifast Question
On April 21, 2024 at 1:40 AM Pacific Time, Freewheeler wrote:

Greetings,

I have fallen off the track a bit after having the sleeve and wanted to go through a sort of detox again with optifast, however it is now two months expired and I wanted to ask if this is really an issue. Typically with food and even medicine - it lasts longer than what it says on the packaging.

Now granted if this was a year expired or more, then I can see there being an issue - but even then I have seen people online willing to buy expired optifast because it is cheaper than buying from their doctor.

I was just curious to see what the feedback would be here.

Thanks!

FW

I would use it.

 


          

 

Freewheeler
on 4/20/24 6:40 pm
Topic: Expired Optifast Question

Greetings,

I have fallen off the track a bit after having the sleeve and wanted to go through a sort of detox again with optifast, however it is now two months expired and I wanted to ask if this is really an issue. Typically with food and even medicine - it lasts longer than what it says on the packaging.

Now granted if this was a year expired or more, then I can see there being an issue - but even then I have seen people online willing to buy expired optifast because it is cheaper than buying from their doctor.

I was just curious to see what the feedback would be here.

Thanks!

FW

califsleevin
on 4/14/24 10:48 am - CA
Topic: RE: Back - AGAIN - 14+ years post-op

I tend to agree with White dove in that revisions don't have a great record on regain problems, as if one learns to eat around the original surgery, one can do it again. The RNY is done sometimes to correct GERD problems that some have with the VSG, but doesn't do much for regain as it is metabolically too similar. The DS is better as it is metabolically stronger, and a straightforward revision (some would say "completion") for the VSG as it starts out with the VSG as its basis, but you say that you don't want to go that far. Fair enough - it's an individual decision and not eveyone is cut out for a DS, or an RNY.

Resleeves can be done, if that is the problem, but can be tricky for some surgeons who aren't fully sleeve savvy. Someone to consult in MI (Grand Rapids area, if that's anywhere close to you,) is Paul Kemmeter. He is one of the old school DS surgeons, which means that he also is an old school sleeve surgeon. Like you, I had my VSG done in the early days when many surgeons were just learning it and there was a fair number of failures and early revisions back then, but my doc was also one of those old school DS surgeons who had been doing sleeves for around twenty years at that time, so well up the learning curve.

I don't know Kemmeter other than by reputation (the DS world is a small one,) but he would likely be able to give you good advice on how to correct your sleeve if it needs it, or go to a DS or SADI if that is more appropriate and you want to go there.

First thing to do, though, is to get that sugar monster back in its cage and get the diet squared away. Even if that doesn't yield substantial weight loss, it is an essential first step to whatever route you ultimately take. There seems to be a growing consensus in the bariatric world that the new class of diabetes/weight loss drugs are a particularly good fit for bariatric post ops who are struggling, so that may be something to consider as well.

Good luck in it all,

1st support group/seminar - 8/03 (has it been that long?)  

Wife's DS - 5/05 w Dr. Robert Rabkin   VSG on 5/9/11 by Dr. John Rabkin

 

skylark2011
on 4/14/24 4:34 am
Topic: RE: Back - AGAIN - 14+ years post-op

Hello Stacy!!

I think I was meant to find your post. Sugar is the devil!! I no longer live in Michigan, but my surgeon was Mark Pleatman also. I do remember it being around 12k out of pocket. I had a VSG in 2011, my original weight was 345. (I'm around 5'9") currently 220, which is about 30 pounds over my goal weight of 193 (which I did achieve!). I think being over 40 and perimenopausal has a lot to do with that - but that's a story for another day lol. I have seen a lot success stories for many VSGers who have had revisions. Perhaps for gastric bypass patients there is less success(?) but there are a lot of VSGers on here that have had revisions. I am not in that number, but please dont be discouraged!

Dr. Pleatman was great and no nonsense. I really appreciated his straight forwardness and candor. Keep us posted!

Grim_Traveller
on 4/5/24 3:45 pm
RNY on 08/21/12
Topic: RE: Back - AGAIN - 14+ years post-op

Welcome back. They can do revisions to sleeves, but that depends on if there is actually anything that needs revising. The first step is to find a surgeon and get a thorough exam and scans, and see if anything is wrong. There's no point in getting ahead of yourself. Enough time has passed that a full bariatric checkup is advisable anyway.

Most VSG revisions are to RNY. I wouldn't rule it out.

6'3" tall, male.

Highest weight was 475. RNY on 08/21/12. Current weight: 198.

M1 -24; M2 -21; M3 -19; M4 -21; M5 -13; M6 -21; M7 -10; M8 -16; M9 -10; M10 -8; M11 -6; M12 -5.

White Dove
on 4/4/24 12:41 pm - Warren, OH
Topic: RE: Back - AGAIN - 14+ years post-op

Revisions do not normally work. To lose the weight again you have to eat less than you burn. I highly recommend Weigh****chers book The Shift. My lowest weight after surgery in 2007 was 128. Today I was 129. It took three years of daily WW meetings online and learning a new way to eat.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

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