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Here's my advice based on what I was told, but if your healthcare team tells you something different, listen to them, not me!
Don't worry about protein right now. You're not going to become malnourished in the next month or so. What you need to focus on now is getting more fluid in. If the shakes are making you nauseous, either skip them or have tiny amounts. I learned the hard way how important fluid is when I nearly collapsed in the supermarket. Rather embarrassing!
One guideline that some people here use is that at 30 days out, you should aim to get 30g protein, at 60 days, 60g protein, and at 90 days, 90g (but you may not need that much).
Since you had surgery less than a week ago, you probably won't be able to meet your fluid goals yet, but it's important that you ramp up quickly so that you can meet your goals.
Here are some more tips, some of which will be more useful to you an a few months:
I alternate hot and cold liquids. Although I know that hot fluids count toward the goal, I tended to avoid them early on because you have to sip them instead of gulping them the way you can with cold liquids. However, I later realised that I actually consume hot liquids at a faster rate! That's because reaching for the cup and taking a sip at regular intervals happens automatically, without my consciously having to think about it. Also, hot liquids don't make me feel "waterlogged" and "sloshy". Compare that with cold liquids, which I have to remind myself to keep drinking. Also, I measured my favourite mugs and was surprised to discover that they hold 500 ml, so that's a quarter of my daily requirement. So now I tend to alternate between hot and cold liquids to avoid boredom.
I start before breakfast. Just thinking about drinking 2 liters per day is intimidating for me. So (and this is brain dead obvious in hindsight), I focus instead of getting in 500 ml before each meal. Drinking 500 ml before breakfast was a game changer; getting a quarter of the way to my goal that early really inspires me to keep at it.
I turn some of my liquids into indulgent "snacks". To decaf coffee I add protein powder, cocoa, cinnamon, and almond flavouring for a decadent "latte". One of the highlights of my day, and I'm killing two birds with one stone: protein and liquids.
I prefer a little acidity in my water. Adding lemon juice is one way. Another thing I do is fill a bottle with water, put an herbal tea bag in it, and stick it in the fridge for a few hours. Effortless ice tea!
For cold liquids, I prefer to bottles with screw-on lids. I drink them more quickly and automatically. I think this is due to years of unconsciously sipping on diet sodas. Liquids in glasses tend to warm up, evaporate, and collect dust more quickly. I have tried using water bottles with flip top lids, but I have found it difficult to develop a habit of drinking automatically from them. I now use those steel double-walled vacuum bottles. They keep drinks cold/hot for ages, and somehow liquids just taste better. Easy to clean, and never develops a funky smell like plastic bottles do.
Use fluids as an appetite suppressant. When I feel "hungry" outside of mealtimes, the first thing I do is drink. That usually makes the "hunger" go away, at least for a while. If it comes back the second time, I have a snack.
If you skip breakfast, try to get in 1.5 litres of fluid before lunch. I'm generally not hungry for breakfast. In fact, I find that breakfast "wakes up" my appetite, so I usually skip it. Drinking most of my fluid before lunch accomplishes several things:
- All that fluid reduces my appetite.
- I've met 75% of my fluid requirements early in the day, so the rest of the day I just drink fluids as desired and am virtually guaranteed to meet my goal.
- If I drink a lot of fluid later in the day, I will have to wake up frequently to pee.
- Drinking that amount of fluid over a relatively short period of time really helps me avoid constipation.
Good morning everyone. My name is Faith. I had my VSG surgery on 12-9-19 at Wesley long hospital by Dr. Kinsinger. After surgery I was back up to 286 from swelling and co2 gas etc. since Monday I am already back to a new low of 273. I started at 298 originally so this makes my total loss 25 lbs so far. I'm happy seeing the scale move but I have a serious concern. I am sick of the protein shakes in the full liquid phase. I mixed one with pudding this morning but I can only eat a couple bites before I get nauseous and can't eat anymore. Also when I drink I feel instantly full and it's so hard. I'm not getting in enough liquids for sure or enough protein. Maybe 30g of protein max right now and maybe 30 oz of liquids. Does anyone have tips for protein sources on the full liquid phase that are different from the shakes I just can't stomach them anymore. I keep getting migraines from being dehydrated but my stomach just feels constantly uncomfortable when I put anything in it. Please helpppp!!!
Those stalls are the absolute worst! I hit one a few weeks out myself and then the weight began to come off. I definitely have to admit that the smart scale helps me stay on track as well. Increasing the water intake helps me prevent severe constipation but I could've sworn I was giving birth all over again a few days ago, it was that bad. I went and purchased some stool softener and fiber gummies as others have suggested on the forum. Hopefully it helps. Also, I've been using a kitchen scale as of Monday and the scale started moving again. And I've increased my water intake to at least 64 oz, 96-100oz if I can. The water intake seems to change the further we are out or rather, the capacity does. Good luck to you! We got this!
I am heading for thirteen years out. Most of the effect of the surgery is long gone. I can pretty much eat like I could before surgery.
So I have gone back to Weigh****chers, now called WW.
Last year, I did WW from January until June and lost fifteen pounds. Weight gain is not an issue for me during the summer because I lose my appetite in the heat and get so much more exercise outside.
But as it gets colder weight starts to come back. I get through the holidays and then will go back to WW in January. I have kept off all but two pounds of that loss and plan to lose another ten to fifteen between January and June of 2020.
That will put me back to my goal weight or close to it.
Once I talked to my doctor about weight gain during the holidays and his opinion is that is nonsense. He said squirrels and raccoons gain weight during the winter months and they don't have Christmas. He believes it has to do with cold weather and lack of sunlight.
I really like the WW points plan because I can have anything I want as long as I track the points and many foods are zero points. Many days I am at zero points at supper and still had things like fish, turkey, eggs, chicken, yogurt, corn, peas, salad, tomatoes, three bean salad, strawberries, fruit ****tail, apples, and refried beans. Then I have my full 23 points for something like a steak with baked potato, salad with thousand island dressing and ice cream for dessert.
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I'm only 1.5 years out, but I have a couple of tips that might help:
I try to focus on what I should eat rather than what I shouldn't. By the time I've met my goals for eating a certain amount of veggies, fruit, fibre, etc., I'm rarely hungry and seldom tempted to eat things I shouldn't. I'm so busy trying to get in all the healthy things I'm supposed to eat that I don't have much time to think about unhealthy food.
I use water (or other fluids) as an appetite suppressant and to help me distinguish between real hunger and excess stomach acid or boredom. If I'm hungry and it's not mealtime, I drink a glass of water. A little while later, if I'm still hungry, then I eat. That way I'm not denying myself food, I'm just postponing it.
I make one change at a time; I don't try to fix everything at once. I look at the things I eat most often and try to tweak them to make them healthier. Tracking everything you eat is key.
By tracking everything I eat, I have learned that the amount of food I want fluctuates from day to day. This has helped me be more relaxed about those days that I eat more, because I know that I'll probably make up for it the next day.
Hey guys, I just had the VSG on the 19th of November and I am so glad I saw this post. This whole week I have not lost a pound and I was wondering what was wrong with me?? So glad to see that this is just something most of us go through.
A little about me, I had the lap-band for 12 years and was very successful until February when it developed a leak that could not be fixed and it had to be removed so I spend the next 9 months gaining weight (not on purpose) and fighting to get the VSG.
This is so different than the band and I am just getting used to how this works. With the band if I ate something wrong or too fast I would spend the next 5 minutes in the bathroom throwing it up and could not eat another bite for hours. I would not go out the eat with people because I could not talk and eat at the same time for fear of getting up 4-5 times during a meal and going to the restroom but I would not have given up my bank for anything in the world because it kept me grounded in my weight but I know now it was not good for my health.
So here I am now starting all over with a new friend that will help me with portion control.
Thank you for listening.
Debbie
Track your food- every bite. Cut back on carbs. No excuses.
I am battling regain, too. The mental part is the hardest. I know what to do- just making myself do it is the hard part.
Good luck!!
Laura in Texas
53 years old; 5'7" tall; HW: 339 (BMI=53); GW: 140 CW: 170 (BMI=27)
RNY: 09-17-08 Dr. Garth Davis
brachioplasty: 12-18-09 Dr. Wainwright; lbl/bl: 06-28-11 Dr. LoMonaco
"May your choices reflect your hopes and not your fears."
What is a philly cheese steak sloppy joe and how do you make it :)
Not far enough out to really give the advice but just wanted to Give my condolences. And wish you good luck getting back on track. Knee surgery can put you down for quite some time between not being able to walk for a while and the stress included eating wrong can happen easily and not working it off at the time. i can see that happening really easy. Good luck on your journey back down! i wish you all the best. You can do it!! You did it once before.
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That makes sense. Yea today was a very gurgly day. or Growly i am not sure. still trying to figure out how everything feels again. Cuz the growly/gurgly stuff i haven't felt since before the surgery at least to this extent. Just getting back to work gotta get my schedule and meal times reset to where i was 2 months ago roughly. Granted im not sure if i can do the intermittent fasting this early out. as i was before.
Thank you for hte advice ^_^
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