HMMMM Whole Wheat/Grains...

Ms Shell
on 12/7/12 4:37 am - Hawthorne, CA

In my rediscover of MYSELF and MY demons (I love Alison).  I realized that I need to make old favorites into new favorites.  So long story short I follow this blog http://mariahealth.blogspot.com/ she is just AMAZING!!!  She is responsible for "helping" me stop my regain.  She is also responsible for REMINDING me that like Frisco and Elina (I LOVE them too) are showing us we must find ways to REPLACE our old "bad" favorites for "new" good favorites.  So my cabinets flour stock is Almond and Coconut.

SOOOOOO this video from Dr. Oz (a 3 parter) NOW explains why when I eat oatmeal and whole grain wheat bread I feel like I'm about to EAT everything in site...check it out and open your eyes.  Side note the part about the ladies and the blood sugar HIKE after wheat bread vs after a candy bar.  Just other 2 ladies that didn't have a spike...I wonder did their levels stay the same???  I mean TO ME it's just as bad that whole wheat bread and a candy bar affect me the SAME way....things that make you go HMMMMM http://www.doctoroz.com/episode/are-you-addicted-wheat?video =15896

Ohhh and if you didn't catch this article the other day when I posted...well here it is again!!  http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/01/magazine/tara-parker-pope- fat-trap.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Ms Shell

"WLS is only for people who are ready to move past the "diet" mentality" ~Alison Brown
"WLS is not a Do-Over (repeat same mistakes = get a similar outcome.)  It is a Do-BETTER (make lifestyle changes you can continue forever.)" ~ Michele Vicara aka Eggface

(deactivated member)
on 12/7/12 4:44 am - Newnan, GA
VSG on 05/04/09 with

I really love her too and her recipe offerings. 

A sad/scary/bummer thing I learned when just out of curiosity I started testing my blood sugars was that protein isolate doubled my blood sugars.  No carbs, no sugars in the protein, just isolate.  DOUBLED.  Like I ate a hand full of Twizzlers, without the joy of picking red goo out from between my teeth.

Its been eye opening to see how my blood sugars (which always fall within normal limits on my annuals - and I NEVER had any symptoms of blood sugar issues, even after getting down on a can of Eagle Brand Milk - mmmm) are jacked around by foods that are deemed "appropriate" and even low carb. 

I love her and I LOVE YOU!

If i care for anything "sweetish" I have coconut manna (creamed coconut no sugar added) that I have put into candy molds and an ounce of it is way more than enough.  Its amusing how that works, when my body isnt sent spinning and jonesing with artificial hunger.

 

Thanks for sharing, sistergirl.

Ms Shell
on 12/7/12 5:15 am - Hawthorne, CA

So true.  I haven't been hard spent to ***** my finger, but it's amazing how I can FEEL the cravings start after I eat steal cut oatmeal.  Interesting about the protein.

Ms Shell

(deactivated member)
on 12/7/12 5:30 am - Newnan, GA
VSG on 05/04/09 with

re - protein only the isolate.  Not when I have my usual Optimum Nutrition CAKE BATTA!!  Which is a protein blend.  That barely blips me 2 or 3 points. 

Carbs just make my face go on patrol. 

Me - on baby bird face patrol  SOMEBODY FEED MY FACE!

 

hollykim
on 12/8/12 6:04 am - Nashville, TN
Revision on 03/18/15

any whole grains  do this to me as  well. in addition,I want to eat all day when I eat any of it.

Secondly, I read a blog about the effect of grains, WWW.wheatbellyblog.com  that had a recent entry about dairy and weight loss. even fresh dairy products. I have struggled for 16 months to get back on the losing train and COULD not do anything but maintain.  I stopped all dairy products and in 2 weeks lost 6#. I am almost back to the weight I was when this huge plateau started(yeah,i gained 12# in there somewhere) and the only change is no dairy. If I eat dairy ,I will be up a # the next day. avoid it and in a couple days back down again. I am trying to avoid dairy like a plague.

 


          

 

Julia HasHerLifeNow
on 12/7/12 4:49 am
VSG on 10/09/12
In all fairness to the bread vs candy bar thing....yes, to your pancreas a carb is a carb is a carb and gets the insulin surge no matter where it comes from or what kind of a carb it is. The blood sugar spike is understandable. But this notwithstanding, the whole wheet bread is still better nutritionally than a candy bar....there are other effects besides the sugar spike. On the whole I agree, but sometimes the info is packaged in a way to support a given line of argument and doesn't necessarily present a balanced or whole picture.

View more of my photos at ObesityHelp.com 5ft0; highest weight 222; surgery weight 208; current weight 120

     

    

Ms Shell
on 12/7/12 5:18 am, edited 12/7/12 5:29 am - Hawthorne, CA

I like his analogy about  filtered cigarettes being "healthier" then non-filter but the long term effects are still just as bad.

There are just many of us who need to SEE people say these things for it to register.  Right around the time of my regain when I got tired of dieting and tired of being hungry.  I was actually eating a 1/2 cup of steal cut oatmeal (added - along with 2-4oz protein).  It dawned on me after awhile that it was THAT triggering my hunger for other stuff which is exactly when this doctor is talking about.

While whole wheat MIGHT be better...NO wheat is BEST for many.

Ms Shell

"WLS is only for people who are ready to move past the "diet" mentality" ~Alison Brown
"WLS is not a Do-Over (repeat same mistakes = get a similar outcome.)  It is a Do-BETTER (make lifestyle changes you can continue forever.)" ~ Michele Vicara aka Eggface

Julia HasHerLifeNow
on 12/7/12 5:29 am
VSG on 10/09/12
True...this is one of those YMMV situations.

View more of my photos at ObesityHelp.com 5ft0; highest weight 222; surgery weight 208; current weight 120

     

    

Ms Shell
on 12/7/12 5:47 am - Hawthorne, CA

HA as I was clicking to ask it CLICKED ....yes everyone is different =)

"WLS is only for people who are ready to move past the "diet" mentality" ~Alison Brown
"WLS is not a Do-Over (repeat same mistakes = get a similar outcome.)  It is a Do-BETTER (make lifestyle changes you can continue forever.)" ~ Michele Vicara aka Eggface

califsleevin
on 12/7/12 5:42 am - CA

And then there is the whole glycemic index effect, where if you combine high GI foods with low GI foods they tend to average out. Bread, even a relatively complex carb type like whole grain wheat bread by itself can stimulate hunger fairly quickly (hence the reason that restaurants often hit you with the bread basked as soon as you sit down....) but when combined with meat and cheese in a sandwich stretches out that spike.

1st support group/seminar - 8/03 (has it been that long?)  

Wife's DS - 5/05 w Dr. Robert Rabkin   VSG on 5/9/11 by Dr. John Rabkin

 

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