Bagel Saga Continued...

I've refrained from commenting on this all day because I was at work, but here is my take:

I don't care what item or items anyone eats.  We all do things differently, and we all slip or make a bad decision once in a while.  Sometimes what works for one person doesn't work for the majority.  I mostly worry about myself and do what I know will work for me.  I generally stay out of the drama.

I do disagree with putting a post out there touting eating half a McDonalds bagel sandwich as the cure-all for cravings and as a suggestion for others, which is the way that I perceived this post.  I did not perceive it as a statement of your journey, but as an encouragement to others to do the same and request for positive reinforcement from others for doing something stupid.  Ditto the idiotic oreo recipe that I had enough self-control to not comment on.

It's one thing to slip up or indulge, it's another thing to post it like it's some kind of miraculous accomplishment.  Quite frankly, I don't feel the need to post everything that I put in my mouth for the approval or disapproval of others. 

I agree with the previous poster -- if you're doing you, why do you keep posting the ridiculous things you are consuming that will inflame all the people who are here to provide support and information to newcomers. 

I am not as restrictive with my intake as others on this site are, but I do respect them all for providing accurate information and support to those who are contemplating a sleeve, and they also provide a lot of guidance to those who just received a sleeve.  If posts like yours are not disputed, then this site is providing a terrible disservice to those readers.

Just wanted to say your perception of why I wrote it is wrong.  Just wanted to clear that up.  I was sharing my journey which seems to be different than most.  I was  in no was making suggestions to others or being defiant and proud of eating a bagel.  I was simply saying I found a way for me to get rid of craving.  I wanted that damn thing for like 2 or 3 weeks, and, half a bagel later and the craving is all gone and I am back on plan.  From some more recent posts of yours I see that you respect that we are all different, I just felt the need to clarify why I made my post.  I found a way so solve my craving and get back on track in a way that worked for me.  Also, I  really don't agree with the last sentence of your post. I am in truth offended.  I don't think very many people understood why I was posting what I did.  With a craving out of my head, the rest of my plan of much easier for me to follow.

Support is not always Whip Cream on Horse ****

It's been seen time and time again that many can lose weight on just about any plan the first six months.

And frankly.... In the big picture....WL is only stage 1 in a multi step process to life long weight control. For me.... WL is beginning to look like the easy part.

Your cheesy bagel posts dosn't promote positive behavior modification. In fact it can promote discounting others successful efforts in behavior betterment.

I can tell you first hand that 150lbs. Feels pretty awesome. And 100% EWL feels way better than the average of 60% not even in the same league.

You already have pre-ops jumping in and looking forward to going off plan which I (that means me personally) think that is the worst.

What's plan B if WLS doesn't work out? Personally.... I don't have a plan B

Don't get me wrong.... I want anyone who takes on any WLS to get what they want out of it.

You let a cheap bagel sandwich beat you......

frisco

You post on here a lot, and truthfully, I do read and respect your posts so after some thinking I wanted to address you directly.  I realize I chose to do something different, I realize I didn't make the best choice of the options available to me.  From past experience in my own life, when I try to get around a craving I always ended up eating more, because the craving stayed and I never felt satisfied.  Before I would have had two bagels, three times a week! I ate the half to get it out of my system and get back on track.  The craving is gone and I have continued with my normal greek yogurt and boneless, skinless, rotisserie chicken.  I did give in to the craving yes, but I didn't let it beat me, I had my half and haven't been back, to me that is beating the bagel.  I am of course hoping, over the course of this journey, to eat more and more healthier alternatives, but it's still a learning process.  I plan on trying a better alternative for the next craving that comes up, whatever it may be. I know my path is different, but I also know this was a huge decision for me to have this surgery and I am damn stubborn enough to make it work. Don't lose faith in me I will succeed!

 
Well, I think you got a good sampling from the reactions to you posts.........

In reality.....it's really not about the bagel.....

If we review the responses... you really got the range .....

First, we have to be in agreement that we want everyone to do well........

Now you very well may have your Bagel Burger thing under control.....or not (that's for u to decide)

But did you notice it brought out the rabid voices of those who are looking for validation to go against what is known to work for most people??? Than multiply that by new people looking and seeing that going off plan is OK.......
Also notice "most"(that means not all) of the people cheering you on still have MAJOR weight to lose?

I actually agree with you more than you think. 

But keep this in mind if losing 100% EW is your goal.......If you look at the big picture....WL is a tiny part in the rest of your life. Developing the life changes needed to sustain your WL for life really starts right now during your first six months. It is known that people do much better in maintenance and the long run if known issues ca be tamed/controlled/eliminated.

Anyone who is so fat they need surgical intervention has major issues and most times it's both physical and mental, so don't think your alone, or your situation is worse than someone elses.....

In reality were a group of sick people suffering from a similar disease.

I hope this made sense and encourage your to re channel your stubborn to work for you not against you !!!!

frisco

This was a great post.  I really understand what your saying and I agree.  Day by day I will continue my journey, makes changes and tweaks and eventually I will find myself at goal.  I will make this work.  I will make this work.  I WILL make this work!

I agree with the logic of some of the posts but not with the OH Nazis. I'm a believer in moderation and I know a lot of the people who swear by sticking to plan "cheat."

However, do you really have to continue the drama by making multiple threads on the issue? Starting a new thread really wasn't needed.

You know this is just ridiculous.  Who made who the moderator of all these posts, I will post what I want, when I want, however many times I want.  I didn't realize that by not following your ideal plan for VSG that I was ruining any chances of success, thank you Dr..... Oh wait a minute, your not a Dr, you're a patient, just like me.  I must have missed the part about about the ultimate, perfect VSG diet we should all follow, explains why so many programs are doing different things, they didn't read that diet either.  I love all the support provided by this forum, lets criticize every little thing to death if someone doesn't follow plan "perfect".  Here's some advice for all the newbies, since at 10 weeks I am no longer new at this apparently, newbies, whatever you do, don't do anything different or try to individualize your plan, you must follow to a T the plan set by your fore father vets or you will be an utter failure with WLS, and heaven forbid you post you made a mistake or ate a carb, you will be hung by your toes and beaten. 
If you can't understand that this journey is different for everyone and everyone needs support and not criticism in something so difficult, then please, stop reading my posts, because I am different and I am an individual, and for that, I am glad.

Well its obvious I support you.....I got bashed right along with you lol you do YOU girl.Learn from your mistakes like we all do and just do what your NUT and DR. Says and you'll be fine.YOU GOT THIS..... yours truley. THE TROLL. Lmfao

I really appreciate your support Ms Troll  I think you get what I was trying to say with my post, and I am glad to report I have not had anymore cravings for my bagel!