McDonalds Bacon Egg and Cheese Bagel UPDATE
First, I want to tell you that even though I don't know you, I care deeply about you and about your success on this journey. We have all been down this road, we have all been obese, we all know intimately the struggles and pain of caring around 100 pounds or more. More than anything else in this post, I want you to know that you are cared about and you are important.
There are many ways to take this journey, and you get to choose your path and that path will ultimately get you to your destination. The average WL with this surgery is 60-70% EWL yet many of us have done better and reached 100% EWL. Some of us VETs, think that we know the path to get you there, and we are right, we know A PATH. This might not be YOUR path, only you know the answer to this. I have seen some people reach their goal and maintain by doing exactly what you are doing, which is eating what you want in moderation. I have also seen many others not reach their goal going down this path. Only you know which one you are more likely to be.
I can share with you what has worked for me and for most of the VET's on this forum, but you did not ask for this, and you might already know our point of view. I can only tell you that your path would not have led me to my goal, of this I am 100% sure. Will it lead you to yours? Time will tell, but the statistics are not on your side.
There are many ways to take this journey, and you get to choose your path and that path will ultimately get you to your destination. The average WL with this surgery is 60-70% EWL yet many of us have done better and reached 100% EWL. Some of us VETs, think that we know the path to get you there, and we are right, we know A PATH. This might not be YOUR path, only you know the answer to this. I have seen some people reach their goal and maintain by doing exactly what you are doing, which is eating what you want in moderation. I have also seen many others not reach their goal going down this path. Only you know which one you are more likely to be.
I can share with you what has worked for me and for most of the VET's on this forum, but you did not ask for this, and you might already know our point of view. I can only tell you that your path would not have led me to my goal, of this I am 100% sure. Will it lead you to yours? Time will tell, but the statistics are not on your side.
VSG on 03/19/12
Hi. I'm NOT going to bash you, make you feel guilty or condone your actions.
However I am going to offer a suggestion for you (real support not bashing) to try next time you crave a McDonald's Bacon Egg and Cheese Bagel.
First, lets look at the BIG picture. Sometimes we (me included) don't take time or just don't want to look at the big picture. A McDonald's Bacon Egg and Cheese Bagel has 560 calories and 27g of fat!! That means almost half of the calories consist of fat. Carbs are 56g!! That's half a days carbs for someone on a 2000 calorie diet. 1300g of sodium. That's 260 teaspoons of sodium. And last but not least 260mg of artery clogging cholesterol. Ouch!! My heart just skipped a beat. LOL. That's 86% of the daily requirement for a 2000 calorie diet.
Study these nutritional stats I took directly from McDonald's website. Is it really really worth it? Even once in a while?
Try making your own. Just try it. You might even like it better. I've found that I'm trying a lot of stuff i would normally turn my nose up at. I'm finding that most of it taste pretty good and is a great alternative.
Thomas's Bagel Thins - about 110 cals. You probably can only eat half so that's 55 cals. (only cook half) and .5g of fat.
Egg Beaters (or similar) about 25 calories per serving, 0 fat
fat-free cheese - Kraft, I just bought some to try today 25 calories per slice, 0 fat
Turkey bacon ( i like it from the farmer's market best) or canadian ham - about 25 -40 calories per slice
1/2 tbsp of margarine if you'd like.
This sandwich would only be about 130 - 150 calories. Maybe 2g of fat tops and a lot less sodium and other stuff.
All I say is give it a try. Experiment!
Hugs and Blessings!!
However I am going to offer a suggestion for you (real support not bashing) to try next time you crave a McDonald's Bacon Egg and Cheese Bagel.
First, lets look at the BIG picture. Sometimes we (me included) don't take time or just don't want to look at the big picture. A McDonald's Bacon Egg and Cheese Bagel has 560 calories and 27g of fat!! That means almost half of the calories consist of fat. Carbs are 56g!! That's half a days carbs for someone on a 2000 calorie diet. 1300g of sodium. That's 260 teaspoons of sodium. And last but not least 260mg of artery clogging cholesterol. Ouch!! My heart just skipped a beat. LOL. That's 86% of the daily requirement for a 2000 calorie diet.
Study these nutritional stats I took directly from McDonald's website. Is it really really worth it? Even once in a while?
Try making your own. Just try it. You might even like it better. I've found that I'm trying a lot of stuff i would normally turn my nose up at. I'm finding that most of it taste pretty good and is a great alternative.
Thomas's Bagel Thins - about 110 cals. You probably can only eat half so that's 55 cals. (only cook half) and .5g of fat.
Egg Beaters (or similar) about 25 calories per serving, 0 fat
fat-free cheese - Kraft, I just bought some to try today 25 calories per slice, 0 fat
Turkey bacon ( i like it from the farmer's market best) or canadian ham - about 25 -40 calories per slice
1/2 tbsp of margarine if you'd like.
This sandwich would only be about 130 - 150 calories. Maybe 2g of fat tops and a lot less sodium and other stuff.
All I say is give it a try. Experiment!
Hugs and Blessings!!
On May 4, 2012 at 8:54 AM Pacific Time, AngieB2011 wrote:
Hi. I'm NOT going to bash you, make you feel guilty or condone your actions. However I am going to offer a suggestion for you (real support not bashing) to try next time you crave a McDonald's Bacon Egg and Cheese Bagel.
First, lets look at the BIG picture. Sometimes we (me included) don't take time or just don't want to look at the big picture. A McDonald's Bacon Egg and Cheese Bagel has 560 calories and 27g of fat!! That means almost half of the calories consist of fat. Carbs are 56g!! That's half a days carbs for someone on a 2000 calorie diet. 1300g of sodium. That's 260 teaspoons of sodium. And last but not least 260mg of artery clogging cholesterol. Ouch!! My heart just skipped a beat. LOL. That's 86% of the daily requirement for a 2000 calorie diet.
Study these nutritional stats I took directly from McDonald's website. Is it really really worth it? Even once in a while?
Try making your own. Just try it. You might even like it better. I've found that I'm trying a lot of stuff i would normally turn my nose up at. I'm finding that most of it taste pretty good and is a great alternative.
Thomas's Bagel Thins - about 110 cals. You probably can only eat half so that's 55 cals. (only cook half) and .5g of fat.
Egg Beaters (or similar) about 25 calories per serving, 0 fat
fat-free cheese - Kraft, I just bought some to try today 25 calories per slice, 0 fat
Turkey bacon ( i like it from the farmer's market best) or canadian ham - about 25 -40 calories per slice
1/2 tbsp of margarine if you'd like.
This sandwich would only be about 130 - 150 calories. Maybe 2g of fat tops and a lot less sodium and other stuff.
All I say is give it a try. Experiment!
Hugs and Blessings!!
VSG on 02/06/12
Just the fact that there is a bagel involved in this food choice is making me feel sickly full in my tummy.
Everyone is going to make their own food choices and justify them someway. You can't help/heal everyone.
This post is a reason why I have vowed to check in with 1. my nutritionist and 2. my psychologist
Everyone is going to make their own food choices and justify them someway. You can't help/heal everyone.
This post is a reason why I have vowed to check in with 1. my nutritionist and 2. my psychologist
I have known a woman from work who had an RNY around 8 years ago. She started right off the bat bragging how she could have sugary lemonade all day and live on Twizzler's and still lose weight. She lost 140 lbs in her first year and nothing thereafter. She gained back about a third of her weight. I always wondered how her path would have been if she ate according to her surgeon's plan from jump instead of saying "I won't drink the protein shakes they are disgusting, I won't eat turkey, eggs/egg whites etc etc it's disgusting" and now 40 lbs heavier and struggling each day as if she never had the RNY she puts sugar on just about everything and says "I can't give up pasta, I love it".
This surgery is not for sissies. It means giving up stuff or working around what I don't like or just plain doing without. I am no saint but I do the right thing 95% of the time. I encourage others to closely examine if they are ready for any weight loss surgery. Really ready. It scares me when I read the litany of foods that people plan to eat when they are "on maintenance". What do you think will happen to you once you start eating all that stuff? What will make you go back to broiled chicken and string beans after you have now eaten pizza/bagels/burgers/tacos etc etc. This is what scares me.
It's Friday and in the past I would've spent Friday night have around 4 cosmos, maybe more. A ton of Chinese food and dessert. And a whole lot of energy hating myself and having clothes that don't fit, high blood pressure and not being able to physically move well.
It's a struggle soemtimes sure absolutely. I am only 4 months out but if I don't prepare myself for the struggle at 4 mos out I will not even be IN the struggle at 4 years out. I'll be huge and depressed by then. Dopey and drugged on food.
Just my 2 cents. I am not going to do this perfectly but I am going to do this successfully . For me, it's all about changing my patterns.
I am not bashing anyone here. We all have the right to do what we want with our food plans regardless of what our surgeon suggests. I am a nurse and we call that patient "non-compliant". We document in the medical record that "the patient is non-compliant with their plan of care/treatment/medication" So when the patient becomes ill again or sicker we have a record that we told him/her what they needed to do to get well BUT they chose NOT to.
This surgery is not for sissies. It means giving up stuff or working around what I don't like or just plain doing without. I am no saint but I do the right thing 95% of the time. I encourage others to closely examine if they are ready for any weight loss surgery. Really ready. It scares me when I read the litany of foods that people plan to eat when they are "on maintenance". What do you think will happen to you once you start eating all that stuff? What will make you go back to broiled chicken and string beans after you have now eaten pizza/bagels/burgers/tacos etc etc. This is what scares me.
It's Friday and in the past I would've spent Friday night have around 4 cosmos, maybe more. A ton of Chinese food and dessert. And a whole lot of energy hating myself and having clothes that don't fit, high blood pressure and not being able to physically move well.
It's a struggle soemtimes sure absolutely. I am only 4 months out but if I don't prepare myself for the struggle at 4 mos out I will not even be IN the struggle at 4 years out. I'll be huge and depressed by then. Dopey and drugged on food.
Just my 2 cents. I am not going to do this perfectly but I am going to do this successfully . For me, it's all about changing my patterns.
I am not bashing anyone here. We all have the right to do what we want with our food plans regardless of what our surgeon suggests. I am a nurse and we call that patient "non-compliant". We document in the medical record that "the patient is non-compliant with their plan of care/treatment/medication" So when the patient becomes ill again or sicker we have a record that we told him/her what they needed to do to get well BUT they chose NOT to.
Wow Wow Wow! My this post just got extremely out of control. First and foremost I feel that everyone has their own opinion. I just don't like the fact that this is a forum to help each other out and not bash each other. Traci I get your point and I'm with you. If the poster asked for help and was in a situation where she needed to get the craving out of her system and she is on the right track now SO BE IT!. Let it go and stop with the harsh and negative remarks. How do people expect to get help when other posters are so rude and negative. Ms. COSTA RICA what ****** nerve do you have to consider someone as a dog is that what you are. Calling someone a Troll is totally uncalled for. The poster was probably expressing how she felt at the moment and was sharing with you all her obstacles . In the beginning everyone has trouble this isn't an easy trip. The homework, the learning and the adjusting to new habits doesn't work overnight. Remember when you were called "FAT" or when ppl would stare at you in a clothing store it sucked big time. So consider what words you use. Not only sounding naive and negative but look like asses. DO YOU REMEMBER THAT FEELING OF THE NEGATIVE PPL IN YOUR LIFE, LIKE I SAID BEFORE THE LOOKS AND STARES. COME ON PPL. This is so Sad.