McDonalds Bacon Egg and Cheese Bagel UPDATE

 Maybe the next time you crave one you can make your own with less fattening ingredients?

EXACTLY!!!!!!! Would have been a better response than ........are you doing this to se how many hits you can get??? Dosent anyone here see my damn point????

 yeah. see i do it all the time with a sausage egg mc muffin. i make it at home with a whole grain muffin, turkey sausage, egg and 2% cheese and i can only eat half and its like 120 calories. 

So she can deffinately give in to her craving, just has to make a healthier option :)

 several of us already provided her that suggestion in a previous post on this subject and she chose not to take it.  i suspect that is part of the reason this has gotten so much attention.

To some degree, this thread shows the difference between folks who have been there and those who haven't.  i don't want this to sound holier than thou, but getting to goal is different than not getting to goal (or just not being there yet).  theres so much learned along the way.  and am still learning.

I don't think any of the posters who are suggesting that this is a bad are doing this out of malice. 

While it IS true that we all make mistakes, the conscious decision to eat half of a breakfast sandwich is a step down a slippery slope.  These posters CARE about your weight loss journey.  Plus, when one posts on a public forum, you can expect that anyone can give their responses.

Here is my take on this.  Food is our drug of choice.  When we use any kind of drug, those pleasurable sensations go straight to the brain in a rush.  That sensation reinforces the addiction/pleasure connection.  Being the addicts we are, how easy will it be to say, "Just this one time", the next time.  And the next time.  And so on.  We all do it.

Another thing that concerns me is the bagel.  Bagels, french bread, pizza dough, to name a few, are made from flour that is more highly processed than regular flour.  This means the body can more rapidly convert it into sugar, giving it a high glycemic index number.  It gets made into sugar more rapidly, the body dumps more insulin than usual, causing you to store more fat, etc.

You've heard it before, but this is the honeymoon period.  The stricter you are with yourself now, the better prepared you will be for the hard part which is maintaining your weight for the next 50 to 60 years. 

If you wanted to learn how to make puff pastry (sorry for the food analogy), would you take advice from some *****ad a book and tried a couple of recipes, or would you rather learn from a chef who has done it over and over for years?

This Board cares about you and truly wants you to succeed.  Please rethink!!!!

One more thing! 

Just like nut butters, butter and other fatty things, that really should be reserved for when you need to increase your calories a little to maintain.  We're not saying not to do it ever.  Just saying not to do it now!

I'm sorry but I just have to pipe in....at a few months out...I would have NEVER eaten a bagel. Just too darn heavy on my tummy. Now at 8 months...I still won't eat a bagel. Not because of carbs, I eat carbs but it's still too darn heavy and the thought of eating it makes my tummy go "Ewh"! 

Look back at why you wanted this surgery. To lose weight. If you are going to have a craving try to make a "Bariatric Version"....no bagle, one egg with some cheese sprinkled on it and perhaps a slice of canadian bacon. We have to learn to make changes for the better so we can get rid of this "baggage"! Physical weight baggage. Mental weight baggage. 

For the head hungers I would seriously suggest you go to a weekly support group at your weight control center. I go to both Bariatric and Regular Dieter's support groups and it really helps. I also see my nutritionist every other month or so just to stay on track. I also take advantage of their "Cooking Classes" which really help with cravings and cooking. I also track/journal my food patterns so I know if I'm having a tough time or not. 

You're just starting out on this journey....don't fall into cravings so soon. This is your best time to lose. So when your tummy can hold more or the head hungers are hitting you bad or your motivation is slipping because your losing slower....you'll be strong enough to fight them. 

To me, I could give a damn whether you ate that cra*****t.. the issue I'm seeing is the rationalization for bad decisions: bad day at work, worked hard, took the stairs, cleared for all foods, and the justification: still lost a pound! (yay?) 

You actually thought about this and found reasons (reasoned with yourself, justified a known and admitted bad decision- emotional eating) to go get some really unhealthy food. The food is nothing, it's calories.. you stay on plan-you burn them off. The issue is the staying on plan, and this kind of thinking makes that very, very difficult to do as it sets up a pattern of behavior- or actually continues the same pattern that got you over 300lbs and needing surgery to remove most of your stomach to get you healthier. 

You think that craving is gone? You just set yourself up to experience more by giving into it.. you have put one foot in front of the other to reinforce a bad habit, and justified it further by saying it's ok once in a while. Well, that once in a while justification behavior got us morbidly obese, right? Do you see the problem with this thought pattern? Find another way to soothe yourself, and work through your emotional eating issues.. or this will not lead anyplace you really want to go. It's not about the FOOD! Turn around this relationship with stuffing your feelings now, while you still have some real assistance from your new sleeve.. 

And something I wrote that may be helpful to you, and if not- someone lurking may be learning from this thread.. I truly believe this, and I try very hard to live it: 

You KNOW what didn't work for you/us/we.. Do not think surgery changes this ONE DAMN BIT. If you continue to eat without mindfulness, if you continue to assume you CAN self-regulate your food.. eventually you will end up in the same place you were to begin with. We are not normal, never will be and stop trying to chase it. We need to take steps to make this work till the day we die. This means forever changing the way we run our bodies.. sucks, perhaps- but deal with it, the alternative sucks more!

Eat McNasty once you hit goal and have mastered cravings. They will still be on every corner I promise.

The folks at goal have valid points. They are at goal for a reason. The truth is that cravings get stronger the further out you are. You will be able to eat more with time and you have to devise a way to tell that devil on your shoulder that you're going to eat something healthy instead.

WLS is a treatment to obesity not a cure! It's mostly mental and the best time to eat "off plan" is after reaching goal.

Also OH VSG folks are pretty hardcore. I've been on other forums and honestly "groupthink" rules here. Posting certain topics will generate a almost guaranteed negative response.

In my real life, I have to eat fast food sometimes. It is what it is. I knew this and wrote up a list of places I could eat on the fly. I went online, when I wasn't hungry, when I wasn't letting head hunger run my life, when I was rested - you get where I'm going with this, and I looked up every menu I could think of and had a list of things I could safely eat at each place. Most of them require me to "rearrange" the food (take off the bun, ask for the food plain, etc), but it works.

Just something you might try.

The only concern I have is that you let your head hunger drive you to Micky D's and order the food item you *love*. That's not good.

Head hunger is my biggest enemy.

Next time try ordering something you don't love and see if you are just as satisfied. You probably wont be, but you will start seeing how much head hunger has control of us.

Good luck.