RE: carbs...are you "normal" I say yes...and NO! I'll explain......

jimbovsg
on 3/11/11 4:31 am

On March 11, 2011 at 12:00 PM Pacific Time, brighterDayz wrote:

On March 11, 2011 at 11:33 AM Pacific Time, jimbovsg wrote:

On March 11, 2011 at 11:19 AM Pacific Time, brighterDayz wrote:

I do not believe people when they say they are vegetarians and they are MO. I just don't believe it.

Seriously? You don't think "vegetarians" can get fat on ....pasta, rice, cheese, crackers, cookies, ice cream, potatoes,
Many "third world countries eat beans and rice/bread as "staples" of their diet.........are they all lean? MOST people don't get "fat" eating ......fish, beef, chicken, pork, etc. the problem is we eat meat AND the wrong type of carbs too.......plus dessert ! There are some "vegetarians on this board who were MO on a "vegetarian" lifestyle. Don't think they were cheating W/ grilled fish or chicken! If they were.....the may not have needed WLS!

I never said I don't think it's possible, I said I don't believe you're eating 3-5000 calories a day in fruits, veggies and nuts. The strict vegetarians I know tend to be healither people, heck, even those that eat fish and eggs aren't eating 2 dozen eggs a day.

I know more than a few closet eaters also. I just don't buy it. I think there's a lot of denial and shame when it comes to being MO.

I agree......many MO people (myself included) ate with no regard to tracking my food intake i could not tell you what i ate before noon....mind was already thinking about dinner. I did not want to know....ignorance/denial is bliss.....as i found out....it get you to 580lbs and nearly disabled too!

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MY  VSG......KICKS ASS!

I am   6' 2"

sublimate
on 3/11/11 8:51 am - San Jose, CA

VSG on 07/27/10

Indians are mostly vegetarian as a culture and MO and Diabetes is extremely rampant there.

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jimbovsg
on 3/11/11 2:46 pm

VSG on 09/01/09

On March 11, 2011 at 4:51 PM Pacific Time, sublimate wrote:

Indians are mostly vegetarian as a culture and MO and Diabetes is extremely rampant there.

Well i don't think that "vegetarian" if not done properly.....in a "good" thing! Many vegetarians......do not have a clue about how to "do' vegetarian correctly!

JIMBO...  350lbs! lost!..... TRIPLE CENTURY CLUB!!  HELL ...YEAH!
MY  VSG......KICKS ASS!

I am   6' 2"

(deactivated member)
on 3/11/11 9:38 pm - GA

VSG on 05/04/09 with

I was a raw vegan for over a year, not even a high fat raw vegan and I was STILL 250 pounds at the end of it.

Our belief or disbelief of something does not make it true, or untrue.

jimbovsg
on 3/12/11 12:19 am

VSG on 09/01/09

On March 12, 2011 at 5:38 AM Pacific Time, Brandilynn Wonderland wrote:

I was a raw vegan for over a year, not even a high fat raw vegan and I was STILL 250 pounds at the end of it.

Our belief or disbelief of something does not make it true, or untrue.

I do believe you.....but many will think you are....full of "raw vegan" ****!

JIMBO...  350lbs! lost!..... TRIPLE CENTURY CLUB!!  HELL ...YEAH!
MY  VSG......KICKS ASS!

I am   6' 2"

Lee ~
on 3/11/11 10:03 pm - CA

VSG on 02/17/10

I just added a post on a previous page. I was vegan (not a single bite of sugar except from fruit) from 1989 - 1997 and I shed around 10 pounds during that time. I was morbidly obese. I was again raw vegan from 2004 - 2007 and was morbidly obese. Carbs in any form cause me to gain weight - or at least not lose weight.

That's just my experience, so now you know one person.

HW: 249 SW: 229 GW: 149 Age: 63 - Body by Sauceda - 12/2011

jimbovsg
on 3/12/11 12:21 am

VSG on 09/01/09

On March 12, 2011 at 6:03 AM Pacific Time, Lee ~ wrote:

I just added a post on a previous page. I was vegan (not a single bite of sugar except from fruit) from 1989 - 1997 and I shed around 10 pounds during that time. I was morbidly obese. I was again raw vegan from 2004 - 2007 and was morbidly obese. Carbs in any form cause me to gain weight - or at least not lose weight.

That's just my experience, so now you know one person.

Same response to you as brandilynn's!

JIMBO...  350lbs! lost!..... TRIPLE CENTURY CLUB!!  HELL ...YEAH!
MY  VSG......KICKS ASS!

I am   6' 2"

Lee ~
on 3/12/11 12:32 am - CA

VSG on 02/17/10

Yeah, I know that many vegetarians eat a lot of crap. I was doing OA at the time, following a strict food plan that didn't include sugar or any junk food at all. I may not have had carbs from junk, but fruit and potatoes have a lot of carbs. When I was eating raw vegan it was all fruit and veggies with 2 ounces of weighed or measured nuts a day.

I think we just need to be honest about what works or doesn't work for us. Carbs don't work for me, it doesn't matter what form they're in. At least not today. Maybe later they will, but I doubt it.

HW: 249 SW: 229 GW: 149 Age: 63 - Body by Sauceda - 12/2011

thethinme
on 3/12/11 10:14 am - NY

VSG on 01/24/11

well, like I posted in the previous page, here I am. a vegetarian who got to a 38 BMI. and I did NOT eat much junk food either. mostly grains, dairy and I am really NOT into sugary food.

I can answer any questions you may have. honestly, I don't understand why you would not believe it.

SW 215=98 | GW 137=62 | CW: 116 lbs = 52.5 kg | 5'4 | lost: 99 lbs=45 kg | goal: 7-9 mo.

Phyllis C.
on 3/11/11 3:56 am

VSG on 04/17/08

We are normal, it's the carbs that are abnormal, along with our sedentary lifestyles.

Refined carbs are like drugs. They enter our system like we ate an amount of unrefined carbs that we could not physically manage. It would probably take about a bucket of beans to produce the sugar that is in a regular soda.

This overload of sugar produces an abnormal amount of insulin which in turns stores this abnormal amount of sugar as FAT!!!

Back when people actually had to physically work to get through a day, they probably could handle more carbs and not get fat, as long as they were not refined carbs.

Everybody has to find what works for them. If one is able and willing to be physically active they probably can eat whatever they want if they have a reduced stomach capacity. Those of us that hate exercise and need a fire lit under out butts to get us to move are not going to be able to eat whatever we want if it involves refined carbs to any degree.

Now that our systems are compromised by getting fat and having an insulin response that developed because of eating processed carbs, most of us will have to curtail carbs to lose weight and keep it off. Eventually eating crap will catch up with just about everybody, the rest will probably die before they get fat.

I really hate modern living because of what it is doing to us humans.

Phyllis
"Me agreeing with you doesn't preclude you from being a deviant."

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