RE: carbs...are you "normal" I say yes...and NO! I'll explain......

Your personal experiences with brown rice making your blood sugar rise is a very specific reaction for you. But you know that when I'm talking about brown rice being healthier than a danish, you kinow what I mean! I'm NOT talking about blood sugar -- and neither were  you initially, either. I thought we were talking about carbs in general. You know that brown rice has other nutrients going for it, and so do a lot of other carbs. These are GOOD things.

Two different bariatric nutritionists I spoke to here in town, both at different centers, told me the same thing. That there's nothing wrong with eating carbs. Protein should come first, of course, and they wanted me to avoid white carbs and sugar. But no one ever said fruit, milk, and beans, etc. are bad for us. Yet,  you're here telling us exactly that. Or am I completely misunderstanding you?

Not that Jim needs me to respond for him, but carbs leading to blood sugar/insulin response leading to weight gain  is exactly what he has been talking about the whole time.

I got exactly the same advice from my dietitian who specializes in bariatric nutrition.  And, it's working for us, right?  Pop-Pop

I don't understand this post. Are you being sarcastic? What does "pop-pop" mean?

I see no problem W/ 'healthy"  carbs I.E......vegatables,  fruits, etc......but we are not talking those carbs!  I'm talkin about stuff that MOST of us CAN NOT process "Normally"  refined processed carbs...and sugars.   These are the MOST addicting and damaging to our bodies!  But....as for me   too much of ANY "good" thing could be a problem!  Too much of "healthy " carbs like  fruit can get us into trouble too!  if you are insulin resistant and your body does not process simple sugars properly...... like MOST MO people....eating too much fruit IS a problem.  I'm sure your nutritionists  limits your intake of fruit?   or am i wrong? ....If i was to eat fruit ALL day long bananas, grapes, melons,  nectarines...etc....I would be in trouble.  So if your nutritionists are limiting fruit.....is it really that "healthy"  too much of a good thing is NEVER good.  I am a big believer in "moderation" W/ all foods.  Limiting "refined" carbs is most important.  I eat veggies everyday.....i would never say they are NOT good or don't eat them at all....yes the are carbs!  I'm not "anti-carb"  My point was for MOST  of us.....we will need to limit our "carb" intake (in particular "bad" carbs)  if we want to remain "healthy" for life!  some of us are under the "impression" that we can/will be able to eat "normally' at one point.  I say again MOST MO people are NOT NORMAL in how their bodies process nutrients...."bad carbs" in particular.  LOWER carb (NOT NO carb or VLC!) is what will help the MAJORITY of us be successful long term!  Hey if you do great eating fruit, and beans, and veggies.....more power to ya!  You are not alone....many successful WLS do just that.    I'll bet you still do "lower"  carb/cals than a regular "normal" person(<130 carbs.. < 2200 cals) person....correct me if I'm wrong?  If your values are higher than this.....you are a "rare"  WLS person indeed

While there is nothing "wrong" with eating "carbs" it ALL boils down to YOUR body.  Like Elina posted...YOUR mileage MAY vary, but for ME in my 3+ years out I have played with "good" carbs and "bad" carbs and learned that "bad" carbs make my carb cravings greater say after a meal.  My "good" carbs like brown rice or oatmeal if I have ONE meal with them then the next DAY I'm craving.  As we go on this journey everyone has to SEE what works for them not just duing the losing phase but LONG term...bottom line we aren't in this to lose weight but to KEEP it OFF.

Ms Shell

i think everyone is different in how affected they are by carbs

I rode 10,000 miles one year on my bike and didn't drop a pound cuz  i was trying to eat carbs like an endurance athlete.

for me, milk & bran ceral are gonna set off the carb monster within and act as a gateway drug to the harder (processed) drugs :-)   Some fruits can do this for me too.

Damn!  i don't put that many miles on my car!  No BS!  I would have drop lots of weight.....from all the tears i would be cryin' cause I be a big P***Y!  

It was more miles than I put on my car .... cycling was my cross addiction the last time I made a huge effort at losing weight.   I totally don't believe you are a big P***Y, you just haven't found your exercise cross addiction.  And it was like everything, you work up to it, I rode 4000 the first year, 6000 the second year and 10,000 the third year.  I dropped some weight the next year cuz I stop trying to kid myself that I was "normal" and ate less carbs :-)  


 

My exercise cross-addiction is the "donut dunk-n-curl"  kinda like a regular curl.....but only from the coffee cup to your mouth!  I walk 6x a week..4-5 miles.....weight training another 3x........works for me  at the moment........I want to get back to playing sports like when I was younger.