Did Your Surgeon Remove the Omentum?

~~Sami~~ *.
on 9/7/07 2:03 pm - Jacksonville, FL
In looking over clinicaltrials.gov, there are quite a few trials now being done that include the VSG. :D  One that I found interesting will be looking at whether or not removing the omentum affects results.  Did your doctor remove your omentum?

Lap-Band June 14, 2001. Dr. Rumbaut, Monterrey, Mexico.
Lap-Band removed after 7 years and converted to Sleeve Gastrectomy on July 7, 2008 by Dr. Roslin.  I've had three happy healthy Lap-Band babies.... and one VSG baby.  5 years out from revision to VSG.  Gained 55 pounds in past 5 months, now considering DS. :(

 

Gael T.
on 9/7/07 2:19 pm - CA
HI Sami, I know Nano's doc does, Dr. Heap in WA state. I haven't heard of any others...


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blessmysunnysoul
on 9/7/07 4:39 pm - rio dell, CA
I didnt even know i had one of those lol what is it? I guess i have to ask my dr now lol...he sure didnt ruin my momentum lolol im flyin high today!!!

 
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Lois B.
on 9/7/07 5:10 pm - Australia
Now I'm worried - I clicked on this post to make exactly the same joke as SunnySoul


blessmysunnysoul
on 9/7/07 5:14 pm - rio dell, CA
be afraid be very very afraid lololololol.....I found out its a fatty lining that lays between the stomach and other organsl.....I think i need mine I hope they didnt toss it .....I did donate my stomach to science however.......there is a joke in there somewhere i can just see it now...."hey did you hear the one about the extremely morbidly obese woman that donated her stomach to science??.......

 
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~~Sami~~ *.
on 9/7/07 11:10 pm - Jacksonville, FL
Here's a good blurb on it http://www2.oprah.com/health/yourbody/slide/20061102/yourbody_20061102_350_103.jhtml ""This organ literally pumps chemicals into your body and it holds the secrets … to los[ing] weight." The omentum is the fat organ connected to your stomach that's only purpose is to catch and store fat. When the fat is stored in your stomach, your body has easy access to it. The fat then creates an inflammatory process that irritates your arteries and puts you at risk for blocked arteries. A healthy omentum, like the one Oprah's holding, should be "lacy, like stockings," Dr. Oz says. "The omentum, you'll notice, is transparent and thin." An unhealthy omentum, like the one Dr. Oz holds, is heavy with fat. While the omentum he's holding is thick and fatty, Dr. Oz says the person it once belonged to—who died of heart disease—was just 30 to 40 pounds overweight. "When someone's beer bellied, you know how it gets that tense, big look? That's this," he says. "That's [the omentum] pushing up against your stomach, and it coils up in there."

Lap-Band June 14, 2001. Dr. Rumbaut, Monterrey, Mexico.
Lap-Band removed after 7 years and converted to Sleeve Gastrectomy on July 7, 2008 by Dr. Roslin.  I've had three happy healthy Lap-Band babies.... and one VSG baby.  5 years out from revision to VSG.  Gained 55 pounds in past 5 months, now considering DS. :(

 

~~Sami~~ *.
on 9/7/07 11:12 pm - Jacksonville, FL
Another article: http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/health-medical-issues/225590-visceral-fat-removal-prompts-hope-insulin-resistance.html "Visceral' fat removal prompts hope By Carey Goldberg, Globe Staff | April 17, 2004 The patient was neither obese enough nor desperate enough for stomach-stapling surgery. But he had raging diabetes and a daunting load of the most dangerous fat: the ‘‘visceral’’ kind that surrounds internal organs and swells pot bellies, inviting heart disease and stroke. So he chose to undergo an experimental operation based on a radical proposition: that simply slicing out a hefty chunk of his visceral fat, by removing a curtainlike flap of internal abdominal fat called the omentum, might help with his diabetes and other health problems. Unlike liposuction, which sucks out fat just under the skin, the omentum operation has no cosmetic effect, and is not aimed at weight loss. Rather, it reflects a mounting push among researchers around the world to understand and neutralize visceral fat, now that a growing body of data is showing that it is more harmful than fat near the surface. Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center surgeons, working with obesity specialists at Joslin Diabetes Center, have tried the experimental surgery on four patients in recent months, using a two-hour laparoscopic procedure that involves pulling strips of the yellow abdominal fat out through tiny holes. Their study, still underway, is the first to examine the possible health benefits of removing only the omentum. Excess fat is the major cause of Type 2, or adult onset, diabetes, which affects about 17 million Americans, more than twice as many as in 1980. If the experiment pans out, it could conceivably give these multiplying millions a one-time surgical solution to replace a lifetime of medication, said Dr. Edward Mun, director of bariatric surgery at Beth Israel Deaconess and the study’s leader. But ‘‘I think that’s a real long shot, and I don’t want to speculate that far off,’’ he said. Doctors have known for decades that top-heavy people — nicknamed ‘‘apples’’ — tend to be at greater risk for heart problems and other ills associated with obesity than bottom-heavy people, who are known as ‘‘pears.’’ But over the last several years, a spurt of research has built an ever-stronger case against visceral fat, to the point that ‘‘we believe that this hidden fat is the most dangerous fat in our body,’’ said Dr. Osama Hamdy, director of the ‘Visceral’ fat obesity clinic at the Joslin. ‘‘The amount of fat that people accumulate in the central abdominal area is the best correlation’’ to obesity side effects including diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, and high cholesterol, he said. One of the best ways to detect visceral fat turns out to be the simple tape measure. Men with waists over 40 inches, and women with waists over 35 inches, are likeliest to have problems. ‘‘Interestingly, the average American waist has gone up by about 1 inch over the last six years,’’ Hamdy added ominously. Exercise and weight loss are known to help reduce visceral fat, Hamdy said. But otherwise, there is no established medical strategy for fighting it, he and others said; and except for the omentum, which is relatively free-hanging and makes up roughly one-third of a person’s visceral fat, most of it is in hard-to-get-at spots that do not lend themselves to the scalpel. Surgery to reduce visceral fat has been tried in rodents, however, and studies have indicated that when it is cut out, the animal’s diabetes improves, the researchers said. In humans, the most intriguing clues come from gastric bypass surgery: after having the operation, which reduces the patient’s stomach to a small pouch, most patients with Type 2 diabetes have been cured. The reason is unclear, but the operation does reconfigure the digestive system to bypass areas heavy on visceral fat. The cure usually comes so quickly that it cannot be attributed to weight loss. And a 2002 Swedish study indicated that among 50 patients who underwent gastric banding surgery, which also limits the stomach, the half who also had their omentum removed showed much more improvement in their blood sugar readings than those who only had the basic operation. Gastric bypass surgery is radical and a bit risky, however, and is generally approved only for patients who are more than 100 pounds overweight. The omentum operation could eventually offer a less radical alternative for people who would not qualify for gastric bypass, said Dr. Justin Maykel of Beth Israel Deaconess, who initiated the omentum study. It has been enrolling diabetic patients with a body mass index between 30 and 40 — for someone 5 foot 8, that would translate to a weight between 197 and 262 pounds — and who have heavy visceral fat, as revealed in a CAT scan. The study will track everything from blood sugar levels, an indicator of diabetes, to fat-related hormones in patients, and the researchers hope it will advance basic understanding of visceral fat. It is increasingly clear, they say, that such fat is not a passive repository of energy, but rather functions as an active organ that emits hormones and other chemicals, some of them harmful. Visceral fat appears to be more metabolically active than surface fat, but much of how it works remains mysterious. The researchers are seeking a total of six patients for this initial pilot study, but they hope the results will be promising enough that they can undertake a larger, longer study to test the operation. The results of the current study have not been analyzed yet and any conclusions are months away, said Maykel. The researchers believe, he said, that any decrease in the volume of visceral fat should bring benefits. ‘‘The question is, what benefit, what degree of benefit, and what will be the long-term impacts?’’ he said. ‘‘It may be the wrong area of visceral fat or not enough — that’s what makes science interesting.’’ Obesity researchers unconnected with the omentum experiment offered mixed assessments of its chances. Dr. Walter J. Pories, a professor at East Carolina University and a gastric bypass surgery pioneer, said he believed the omentum operation would prove ‘‘an important piece of work’’ in terms of advancing the understanding of how fat acts on an individual’s metabolism. As for the diabetic patients, ‘‘My guess, and it’s a straight guess, is that their insulin resistance’’ — meaning their bodies do not properly respond to insulin — ‘‘will diminish and that the patients will do better,’’ he said. ‘‘Of course, the question is, ‘How much?’ ’’ Dr. Nir Barzilai, director of the Institute for Aging Research at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York, sounded more skeptical, though certainly intrigued. ‘‘I do have a lot of questions,’’ he said. One of them is, ‘‘Can they take enough fat to make an impact?’’ said Barzilai. His work in aging rats has shown that removing large amounts of their visceral fat could prevent the rats from developing diabetes, but, he cautioned, ‘‘The fat in rats and the fat in humans is not in the same place.’’ The patient with raging diabetes who underwent the operation said his blood sugar fell dramatically as a result and has remained lower, but he has gained back most of the 20 pounds or so he lost in the weeks following the surgery. A 52-year-old Boston Web producer, he asked to remain anonymous to keep his medical details private. The operation went uneventfully, and he recovered fully within days; there have been no complications with any of the four patients, Mun, the study leader, said. But, the patient said, ‘‘It’s not a panacea, unfortunately.’’ These days, he is taking drugs for lingering diabetes, high cholesterol, and appetite control, but still carrying about 215 pounds on his 5-foot-7-inch frame. ‘‘I think the jury is out in terms of the long-term benefits,’’ he said. But one thing is clear to him, he said: ‘‘I don’t think there’s an easy way around this. We as a society have to eat differently, eat less, and get off our butts.’’

Lap-Band June 14, 2001. Dr. Rumbaut, Monterrey, Mexico.
Lap-Band removed after 7 years and converted to Sleeve Gastrectomy on July 7, 2008 by Dr. Roslin.  I've had three happy healthy Lap-Band babies.... and one VSG baby.  5 years out from revision to VSG.  Gained 55 pounds in past 5 months, now considering DS. :(

 

Susan B
on 9/8/07 12:11 am - Yakima, WA
I had the same surgeon as Nan, and yes he does remove the omentum.  Susan

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on 9/8/07 12:24 am - Yakima, WA
Yes, my omentum (fat pads around liver, lungs, etc) was removed ... and it made an immediate difference. I could breathe!!  A deep breath. I didn't realize how my lung space was SO cheated by fat. LOL. I used to swim, and I'd dive underwater and be OUT of breath almost immediately. It was so odd ... I didn't make the connection to fat till post-op.   My surgery was a hard recovery, and because I recommended it to a friend and then saw her suffer when she got dehydrated and started vomiting and couldn't keep her pain under control and Debra A and I ended up taking her to the hospital. Seeing her in pain and knowing I recommended the surgery caused such guilt. Now of course, she is healthy and vibrant and her son wants Dr. Heaps' procedure and she will allow it ... so (okay I'm rambling ... try and stay with me) it worked out well in the end. So .. I said all that to say, just know his procedure is available.  It's a straight VSG, small bowel resection, omenectomy, and silastic ring placement.  The silastic ring is stitched to the inside of the esophagus, about 2/3 of the way down, and it supposed to prevent gulping. I have only felt mine a couple of times ... I wonder if it is still there?? Anyway ... back to the coffee pot for me. Yawn.
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J2 O.
on 9/8/07 3:10 am - St. Louis, MO
Very interesting thread and research......thanks for sharing!!! Jeni  Smart 


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