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DramaQueenz
on 7/18/06 9:23 am - Patriots Nation, MA
Topic: RE: Where is everyone?????
How long are you from being 18? I'm 17 at the moment, and have to wait until November just to go to seminars/consultation (6 months to get the process started). I should be able to get my surgery on my 18th b-day. It will take 4-6 months to get all the stuff done before surgery. Do you have insurance, or are you self pay? If you do have insurance call and ask if you need a supervised diet. That may hold you up when trying to get surgery at 18. Most SVD are 6 months long. So you man as well get a head start. RARELY, will they do surgery on someone that's under 18. My friend was an exception she was almost 600 lbs. at 17. They only operated on her because it was a "life or death" situtation. Good luck though!!
Spacely StarKiller
on 7/16/06 12:58 am - Montreal, Canada
Topic: RE: Rant about feeling crappy after surgery DAY 4. lol
Congratulations on the wedding!! So far I've lost 21.5 lbs this month. But it's all about the little WoW moments I guess - I can use my at home scale now!! (it goes up to 330 lbs) lol so YAY!!!! I don't have to go to the hospital to be weighed like some sort of giant or something, that's really cool. I was wondering if people our age had problems with extra skin because being younger, our skin is more elasticy- alot of the older women need tummy tucks and breastlifts and arm clippings or whatever - is it really that bad? I'm sorry if I don't reply right away - I'm going to be gone for two weeks, they have internet where I'm going but I don't know if I'll be able to open this site. I'll try and email you. I haven't talked to my surgeon, because everything seems pretty normal - when I talked to him on the phone he asked if I was throwing up - so I told him the truth, Yes - but I know why. It's been because I overate, drank water after, wasn't hungry or it didn't agree with me (wasn't ready for it) He said ok, so I guess everything is normal then. I haven't thrown up so much! Yay for me. Tylenol seems to be helping the pain. So yes- once again congratulations on the wedding! I'm sure you will look amazing in that dress! You have to send me pictures!
Casi G.
on 7/15/06 11:39 pm - Springfield, MO
Topic: RE: Rant about feeling crappy after surgery DAY 4. lol
That's great! I'm glad to hear it! How much have you lost so far, do you know? I know I've hit rock bottom for my weight - I've lost 116 lbs, which I got down to just about 4 weeks ago probably. Now all I have to do is continue to work out so I can get this stupid extra skin gone. Grr, it's annoying. Plus I really have to work to get it off at least under my arms, because I'm getting married in October and I do not want that to show. Especially with the wedding dress I got. Ugh. But that's great! Have you talked to the surgeon about anything either?
Spacely StarKiller
on 7/15/06 6:44 pm - Montreal, Canada
Topic: RE: Rant about feeling crappy after surgery DAY 4. lol
Hey I just realized the last time I talked to you I was whining about feeling like crap LOL Just to let you know, I'm feeling much better - I've updated my profile if you want to check it out. Take Care!!
Spacely StarKiller
on 7/15/06 6:43 pm - Montreal, Canada
Topic: RE: In the News!!!!
Hmmm I'm just going to repost something I wrote the other day on the main message board: ____________________________________________________________ Hmmm.... I've noticed alot of people are worried about their Child(s)/Teen(s) Weight. I was overweight my entire life (I'm 18)... So I thought I'd leave you with some of my thoughts.... ____________________________________________________________ There are also some parents on the board that are worried that their children are overweight and want to help them lose the weight. I've been there, I've been that fat child and let me tell you I've learned some things!! First off: Even at the tender age of 4/5 - you still remember rude comments anyone, ESPECIALLY family members said. Insulting a child/teenager is not encouraging them to get healthy - infact it's making them feel horrible, disgusting and worthless. If they're so horrible and disgusting and worthless, what will losing weight do? If they could even lose the weight? It creates a major lack of self-esteem, which is EXTREMELY vital at ANY age. Secondly: It is NOT fair to allow one child something and not allow another child the same thing. They feel alienated. My grandmother used to do this to me because I was a heavy child and my brothers were both very thin. Believe me, I hated her for it - and I got to eat the snack anyways. I became a closet eater. Why not get everyone healthy? Thirdly: Bringing up the topic of "their weight" children, teenagers - DO NOT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT IT!!! It's hard enough accepting their body changes - they feel uncomfortable enough with themselves, so it's a very sensitive topic. I think you have to start feeling good about yourself, feel worthy enough to lose weight. So - what do I suggest? I suggest that you get them interested in joining a sports team - it provides physical activity and allows them to socialize! Get a pool!!Also, you can get them interested in going for walks durring the day or in the evening (with or without the dog) You can tell them it's because YOU want to start getting healthy - if they think it's about them they will get humiliated and will no longer be interested. When I was in my early/late teens - I didn't even want to hear WEIGHT - it made me cringe. And because I felt so horrible about myself and my body - I thought I weighed a MILLION pounds, I felt like I'd never lose the weight, never feel normal. EVERY doctor I've ever been to (sans Dr. Christou and his team) made me feel DISGUSTING and made me fear that I'd die within the next 24 hrs because of my weight!!! Let them know that it's not that bad (if they confide their weight to you - don't push them, give them time!!!) Let them know that it really isn't that bad and that if they start eating healthier and drinking more water and doing physical excercise, they'll lose it easily! Remind them that it's easier to lose weight if you're younger ;) Believe me - it helps!!! Weight is a very sensitive issue - no matter what your age. However I'm really concerned for teenage girls. There is so much preasure from the media. I used to read all the girly magazines like my friends, but I decided one day that I would stop because I'd be COMPLETELY depressed after flipping through the magazine - I didn't look like that!!! Maybe once they'd put a "plus size" (14!!!) in their magazine to show the different clothing that fits YOUR body - but even that didn't look like me!!!! Just remember everything you do impacts your child/teen - The way you approach them, The words you say. Don't force them. But don't let them stray. My family is trying really hard since I've had the surgery to eat healthier (which I appreciate SOOOOOO much!) No more take out, no more unhealthy snacks, lots of water and vegetables - and meals that we can generally all eat. I feel kind of important because they're eating healthier because of me. My mom and I also go for walks at night. I just wish we had started sooner, when I was younger. It seems like each generation learns a little and screws up a little - it's only normal. I hope this helps.
Candikisses
on 7/12/06 12:10 pm - IL
Topic: In the News!!!!
CHICAGO (AP) -- Is it OK for doctors and parents to tell children and teens they're fat? That seems to be at the heart of a debate over whether to replace the fuzzy language favored by the U.S. government with the painful truth -- telling kids if they're obese or overweight. Labeling a child obese might "run the risk of making them angry, making the family angry," but it addresses a serious issue head-on, said Dr. Reginald Washington, a Denver pediatrician and co-chair of an American Academy of Pediatrics obesity task force. "If that same person came into your office and had cancer, or was anemic, or had an ear infection, would we be having the same conversation? There are a thousand reasons why this obesity epidemic is so out of control, and one of them is no one wants to talk about it." The diplomatic approach adopted by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and used by many doctors avoids the word "obese" because of the stigma. The CDC also calls overweight kids "at risk of overweight." Those favoring a change say the current terms encourage denial of a problem affecting increasing numbers of U.S. youngsters. Under a proposal studied by a committee of the American Medical Association, the CDC and others, fat children would get the same labels as adults -- overweight or obese. The change "would certainly make sense. It would bring the U.S. in line with the rest of the world," said Tim Cole, a professor of medical statistics at the University College London's Institute of Child Health. The existing categories are convoluted and "rather ironic, since the U.S. leads the world in terms of obesity," Cole said. "There must be an element of political correctness." The debate illustrates just how touchy the nation is about its weight problem. Obese "sounds mean. It doesn't sound good," said Trisha Leu, 17, who thinks the proposed change is a bad idea. The Wheeling, Ill., teen has lost 60 pounds since March as part of an adolescent obesity surgery study at the University of Illinois at Chicago. "When you're young, you don't understand what obese means," Leu said. "I still don't understand it." The CDC adopted the current terms in 1998, using weight-to-height ratios and growth charts from a generation of children much slimmer than today's. Children are said to be "at risk for overweight" if their body-mass index is between the 85th and 94th percentiles. They're "overweight" if their body-mass index is in the 95th percentile or higher -- or greater than at least 95% of youngsters the same age and gender. Many pediatricians understand the first category to mean "overweight" and the second one to mean "obese," said the CDC's Dr. William Dietz. He said the word "obese" was purposely avoided because of negative connotations but conceded that many pediatricians find the current language confusing. Adding to the confusion is the fact that about 17% of U.S. children are in the highest category, and that almost 34% are in the second-highest category. That sounds like a mathematical impossibility, but it's because the percentiles are based on growth charts from the 1960s and 1970s, when far fewer kids were too fat. In children, determining excess weight is tricky, partly because of rapid growth -- especially in adolescence -- that can sometimes temporarily result in a high body-mass index. For children in at least the 95th percentile, high BMI "is almost invariably excess fat," Dietz said. But there's less certainty about those in the second-highest category. So to avoid mislabeling and "traumatizing" kids, the CDC chose to be diplomatic, Dietz said. The committee, set up by the American Medical Association, involves obesity experts from 14 professional organizations including the American Academy of Pediatrics. Their mission is to update recommendations for prevention, diagnosis and management of obesity in children. Final recommendations are expected in September, and the participating groups will decide individually whether to adopt them. Dr. Ronald Davis, the AMA's president-elect, said it's unclear whether the expert committee can develop a consensus on the obesity terms. "There are seemingly legitimate arguments on both sides," said Davis, a preventive medicine specialist with Henry Ford Health Systems in Detroit. Maria Bailey of Pompano Beach, Fla., whose 12-year-old daughter, Madison, is self-consciously overweight, opposes the proposed change. She said their pediatrician has told her daughter to exercise more and see a nutritionist, but "hasn't told her that she's in a (weight) category." "We're already raising a generation of teenagers who have eating disorders," Bailey said. "I think it would just perpetuate that." Paola Fernandez Rana of Fort Lauderdale, has a 9-year old daughter who at 40 pounds overweight is considered obese. Rana said doctors "refer to it as the 'o-word' " in front of her daughter "in an effort not to upset her." "They very clearly told me she was obese," Rana said. But she said she agreed with the term and thinks that at some point it should be used with her daughter, too. "Obviously I don't want my daughter to be overweight, but ... in order to change the situation, she is ultimately going to need to hear it," Rana said. Dr. Michael Wasserman, a pediatrician with the Ochsner Clinic in Metairie, La., agreed. Using the term "at risk for overweight" is misleading, creating the perception "that I'm only at risk for it now, so I don't have to deal with it now," said Wasserman, who is not on the committee. "There's a tremendous amount of denial by parents and children," he said. Chicago pediatrician Rebecca Unger, also not a committee member, said she likes using the term "at risk for overweight" because it gives patients hope that "we can do something about it."
Casi G.
on 7/9/06 1:42 pm - Springfield, MO
Topic: RE: Where is everyone?????
How far are you from being 18? I've heard that a lot of insurance companies and even surgeons won't do anything until at least 18 unless absolute need be. Depending on your situation, anything is possible.
Spacely StarKiller
on 7/6/06 4:29 pm - Montreal, Canada
Topic: RE: Where is everyone?????
Hey, I just turned 18 at the end of May - they seemed to prolong my surgery until I turned 18 (Legal age .. Canada.. woohoo) But you should definetly start the journey now. Perhaps it will be different for you. I'm three weeks out, check out my page
margarita
on 7/6/06 6:41 am - Jamestown, NY
Topic: Where is everyone?????
If anyone reads this I was wondering if there is anyone who is younger then 18 who had WLS. I am 17 and am trying to get the surgery.
DramaQueenz
on 6/24/06 2:35 am - Patriots Nation, MA
Topic: RE: One..then the other? Hmm..
Maggie, You should look over the Lap Band forum. There is a young girl who had the surgery, and 11 months later is down 160 lbs. You need to do the research yourself because a lot of mis-information gets spewed about the band. It's not only from posters, but from surgeons too. Just look at reliable site, and you shouldn't get info from anyone who HASN'T has the surgery. Try the lap-band forum they're nice people. I'm gettign banded hopefully in April next year when I turn 18. My surgeon wont do it on anyone under 18. Good Luck with your search.
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