Post about my daily menu

CarlRay
on 5/1/17 12:31 pm
RNY on 02/28/17

Thanks, if only I could KEEP it! LOL

Remember, no matter where you go.......there you are.

Grim_Traveller
on 5/1/17 12:45 pm
RNY on 08/21/12

Following medical advice is one thing. No one was giving him medical advice.

Following the nutritional advice of the majority of the surgical programs I have seen is just foolhardy. They hand out horrible, horrible advice and diet plans. Telling someone they should follow a bad plan is also horrible advice.

Some of the "experts" handing out diet plans to WLS patients may know a great deal about nutrition for the elderly, children, pregnant women, heart patients, etc. I don't know if they do, or not. I know for sure that I know next to nothing about those things.

But I will say that I absolutely know more about what works and what doesn't for our community. Most of the vets here do too. And seeing someone putting hard work into a crappy plan is just infuriating. I see nothing wrong with sharing what we know can work, and what is likely to fail. I think it's our responsibility.

People like the OP are free to listen, or not.

6'3" tall, male.

Highest weight was 475. RNY on 08/21/12. Current weight: 198.

M1 -24; M2 -21; M3 -19; M4 -21; M5 -13; M6 -21; M7 -10; M8 -16; M9 -10; M10 -8; M11 -6; M12 -5.

Cleopatra_Nik
on 5/1/17 1:13 pm - Baltimore, MD

Notice though that I didn't say disregard what folks say. I said:

  1. Take it with a grain of salt because we aren't medical professionals.
  2. It's ok to push back and ask why of your medical professionals.

I stand by that advice. And am not sure why this response was directed at me as I admitted I missed the thread (and I should add that I did not read prior replies before posting my own). But thanks...I guess?

RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!

Grim_Traveller
on 5/1/17 1:53 pm
RNY on 08/21/12

I thought you asserted a couple of things that were flat out wrong. That's why I responded to you.

First, you argued that none of us were qualified to hand out nutritional advice because, "if we were such nutritional experts we probably wouldn't have had to have surgery ourselves."

Comparing what we knew about nutrition when we were super morbidly obese to what we know about nutrition several years into maintaining a normal BMI is a completely false comparison. I would argue that a nutritionist would be better qualified to dispense advice to us if they had walked in our shoes and then had WLS. A 101 pound always skinny nutritionist has zero experience to offer us.

And second, your advice to "Follow medical advice before our advice. ALWAYS" just doesn't apply to the kind of nonsense nutrition advice we usually get from our programs.

And third, I might wonder why you were handing out advice on something you admit you hadn't even bothered to read?

You're welcome . . . I guess?

6'3" tall, male.

Highest weight was 475. RNY on 08/21/12. Current weight: 198.

M1 -24; M2 -21; M3 -19; M4 -21; M5 -13; M6 -21; M7 -10; M8 -16; M9 -10; M10 -8; M11 -6; M12 -5.

Cleopatra_Nik
on 5/1/17 8:05 pm - Baltimore, MD

We'll agree to disagree on a few of those points. But at the end of the day, time is finite and I don't want to keep arguing about this. Good luck to you!

RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!

Grim_Traveller
on 5/2/17 6:50 am
RNY on 08/21/12

And good luck to you.

6'3" tall, male.

Highest weight was 475. RNY on 08/21/12. Current weight: 198.

M1 -24; M2 -21; M3 -19; M4 -21; M5 -13; M6 -21; M7 -10; M8 -16; M9 -10; M10 -8; M11 -6; M12 -5.

Kathyjs
on 5/1/17 12:23 pm

I am a 14 year vet who had kept my weight off. I can honestly tell who will keep it off and who won't but I don't sugarcoat so most times shut up. I was given an eating plan by my behavioral therapist and it worked for me. I would follow the advice of the experts. What works for me is I eat whatever I want but small amounts three times a day. I had surgery for my health and know my pouch is very small so in order to remain healthy I need to put protein first in my pouch. I am extremely blessed because even this far out I do not feel the sensation of hunger.

Kathy S.
on 5/2/17 12:13 pm - InTheBurbs, XX
RNY on 08/29/04 with

I am not sure what this was about but will add my 3 cents as inflation is applied. Do what your surgeon says! Then if it's not working, speak up and adjust as they advise. Come here, read, jump in, learn and try some things members suggest always letting your surgeon's team know what you are doing. Everyone is different, no one on a website knows of your medical history and NO ONE KNOWS YOU AS WELL AS YOU!

That being said there are "basics" that will get you to the finish line and more importantly keep you there for the rest of your life. Yes the first year is called the honeymoon phase because you are so swollen and small from the surgery. That being said my personal experience is after 13 years my tool is still working. I can't eat very much in one sitting and can still lose weight. Lost over 50 pounds of regain after keeping it off for over 10 years.

People mean well we just get very passionate at times. Some say it's the lack of carbs

Look forward to your updates CarlRay

HW:330 - GW:150 - MW:118-125

RW:190 - CW:130

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