oenophilias post RNY

ladygodiva1228
on 3/24/17 5:09 pm - Putnam, CT
Revision on 02/04/15

I wasn't the one *****sponded to the op only to you, so why would you say you were calling me out?

Oh Bless my heart huh? Well here in the Northern states we say go **** yourself. You're very new to WLS and with the holier than thou attitude I can so see you are going to do just marvelous not.

Dr. Sanchez Lapband 9/12/2003
hw305/revision w280/cw197/gw150

Revision from Lap Band to Bypass on 2/4/2015 by Dr. Pohl

    

Teena D.
on 2/27/17 5:31 pm - Oshawa, Canada
RNY on 01/12/17

I do believe that alcohol is definitely a problem. 

RNY Jan 12, 2017 Lost 137 lbs but regained 60.

77 lbs lost and counting!

Losing the regain! I got this!

(deactivated member)
on 2/28/17 6:33 am
On February 27, 2017 at 9:16 PM Pacific Time, HonestOmnivore wrote:

I asked a version of this question in the WLS vets forum, but then thought this might be the best place to go as I think my question is RNY specific...

 

I love big, bold, dry, red wines. I know I have to give them up... but my question to those of you who also are big wine lovers, is what are realistic long term options?

 

Can I "hope" for a time, five or ten years out, where I will be able to have a small (3oz.) glass of red wine with my little lamb chop?  Or do I need to think of a small glass of red wine as just as out of bounds as Haagen Daz? 

If red wine is no longer an option, have any of you found an non-alcoholic red wine that is palatable?

Thanks!

 

Alcohol of any type is a big NO NO after WLS.   It can cause serious illness or even death.  Our livers are working overtime due to the weight loss after surgery and when you add wine, beer, vodka, etc. to your system it causes the liver to work even harder.

Plus some folks have developed transfer addiction and have become alcoholics, gained all their weight back and are just miserable.

It also affects WLS patients differently.  You have a few sips of wine and your buzzed hard for 20mins then its gone and some people dump pretty bad from alcohol.  I don't about you ,but I sure the heck wouldn't want to be in a public setting, have some wine and end up curled up on the floor for a couple of hours until it passes. 

If you want that big, bold, dry, red wine that bad you might want to rethink WLS.

(deactivated member)
on 2/28/17 6:56 am

No I really disagree . I think we just need to discover how to coexist happily and healthily with our new bodies. 

(deactivated member)
on 2/28/17 8:00 am
RNY on 09/22/16

My physician won't even operate on people who state they will drink alcohol after surgery. Even the psych who did my exam for surgery clearance stated alcohol is a bad idea. Alcohol in ANY form is a big no no after RNY.

 

Ceci

HonestOmnivore
on 2/28/17 9:09 am
RNY on 03/29/17

I appreciate all of this.  Like I said, my surgeon has said "No wine" he explained the liver issues. Most of that seems like it should "resolve" after a few years, thus my thin ray of possibly imagined light was that five or ten years down the road, it might be something that would be tolerated in very rare and precious moments.

I have already decided that the WLS is more important to me than my love for wine. It wasn't too tough of a choice but only because I feel like I've run out of options with my weight. I feel like I'm not choosing WLS over wine, I'm choosing my total health and longevity over wine. Hands down I will be healthy and drinking water over being like this and drinking wine.

I have recently taken a few trips to places where wine is never served with a meal, like while staying in a Muslim home in Egypt. I managed to enjoy amazing dishes including red meat (is camel a read meat?) and drink nothing but a hot mint tea.

I would assume that alcohol free wine is still going to have some sugar in it, assuming even a dry red would have some fructose in it, but it might be OK for a mental fix (holding the globe of a red wine glass, swirling the beautiful wine...)

At least at my age people won't assume I'm pregnant when I suddenly turn down a glass of wine :)

5'4" 49yrs at surgery date

SW - 206 CW - 128
M1 - 20lb M2 - 9 lb M3 - 7 lb M4 - 7 lb M5 - 7 lb M6 - 6 lb M7 - 4 lb M8 - 1 lb M9 - 2 lb M10 - 4 lb M11 - 0lb M12 - 3lb M13 - 0 lb M14 - 2 lb M15 - 0 lb M16 - 3 lb

(deactivated member)
on 2/28/17 3:24 pm

I stayed 100 percent sober for eleven excruciating months after surgery and yes I did try non alcoholic wine and even beer . 

I liked the beer better because it has hops so it gives you a little buzz .. the wine too does something ( the famous reservatrols lol? But isn't nearly as relaxing as the na beer. 

I started having a glass of wine or a ****tail on dates - which wasn't a disaster but did prove embarrassing at least once . But my husband still married me so it couldn't have been that bad lol !

 I recently has a problem out Super Bowl Sunday with friends who love wine - we drank a few bottles and I felt ill . 

HonestOmnivore
on 3/1/17 1:52 pm
RNY on 03/29/17

I just spoke to the Barbaric office about a few lose ends before my next appt, and I brought this up as a (joking) concern. The woman I was talking to asked me to hold and when she came back she said that the patient documentation they have only has a hard limit for the first year. She gave me the same general concerns as most of you have here:

  1. Whether it's do to the psychological impact of dieting, or it's due to some biochemical trigger, many patients become MORE susceptible to alcoholism post surgery. She said it's the most common "side effect" for patients that drink alcohol prior to surgery (like me).
  2. My liver will have to work twice as hard so it's important that any alcohol be limited in both quantity and frequency.
  3. Don't drink at all if I am going to drive as any amount of alcohol can produce unexpected levels of practical intoxication.

5'4" 49yrs at surgery date

SW - 206 CW - 128
M1 - 20lb M2 - 9 lb M3 - 7 lb M4 - 7 lb M5 - 7 lb M6 - 6 lb M7 - 4 lb M8 - 1 lb M9 - 2 lb M10 - 4 lb M11 - 0lb M12 - 3lb M13 - 0 lb M14 - 2 lb M15 - 0 lb M16 - 3 lb

CerealKiller Kat71
on 3/7/17 6:56 am
RNY on 12/31/13

I would highly discourage anyone from drinking post RNY --

I think your surgeon's office is being extraordinarily honest -- and shows that you've chosen well. Some surgeons seem to disregard what so many have us have witnessed again and again and again in the years since WLS --

"What you eat in private, you wear in public." --- Kat

HonestOmnivore
on 3/7/17 7:04 am
RNY on 03/29/17

I guess what I save in wine dollars I'll be spending in vitamins and protein powder :-)

I have a friend who had the VSG a couple of years ago and he's horrified I would choose the RNY at my relatively low BMI considering all the permanent life changes required by the malabsorbtion. He keeps bringing up my love of local breweries and my desire to travel to the great wine regions of the world... but I want to be healthy and fit more than I want wine, beer, or tasting tours :)

5'4" 49yrs at surgery date

SW - 206 CW - 128
M1 - 20lb M2 - 9 lb M3 - 7 lb M4 - 7 lb M5 - 7 lb M6 - 6 lb M7 - 4 lb M8 - 1 lb M9 - 2 lb M10 - 4 lb M11 - 0lb M12 - 3lb M13 - 0 lb M14 - 2 lb M15 - 0 lb M16 - 3 lb

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