Let's talk about our perception of food
So, when I was with my new therapist yesterday, I was talking to her about how I was eating and how I wanted to feel like I had myself under control. I was talking to her about how much I had eaten yesterday and how bad I felt about it. So she asked me what I had eaten, and I explained it to her.
For breakfast I had an egg cup, a packet of oatmeal and coffee with sugar free coffeemate (313 calories) at around 8am
I then ate 1 cup of plain fat free greek yogurt with half a cup of blueberries between 10 and 11. (123 calories)
Then at 11:30 I ate my lunch of 2.5oz of turkey with mayo and pickles on half a flat out wrap (169 calories)
My appointment was at 2pm, and by the time I got there I was ravenously hungry. But as we were talking about food and my problems with it, I was feeling super guilty and bad about how I had eaten yesterday and the fact that I felt so hungry at that time. She told me that what I had eaten didn't seem like much and that she'd be starving, too. I mentioned that I had a tiny stomach and that I think it should be different for me.
So, what say you guys, my fellow RNYers? I felt ravenously hungry most of the day yesterday. Would you have felt satisfied with this amount of food? Would you have felt bad for eating a cup of yogurt and fresh blueberries? Because I think that is where my guilty feelings were coming from, and the fact that I couldn't wait until noon to eat my lunch.
I think your menu is to blame. If I ate that menu I w be ravenous also
i would drop all the carbs for more dense protein
I agree, but there are days that I am hungry.all.the.time even when I stick to dense protein. Yesterday I ate 2 turkey sausage links and 1 egg scrambled for breakfast, Ham (3.35 oz) and a string cheese for lunch, string cheese for a snack and chicken breast for dinner, and I could have eaten my house.
I agree, but there are days that I am hungry.all.the.time even when I stick to dense protein. Yesterday I ate 2 turkey sausage links and 1 egg scrambled for breakfast, Ham (3.35 oz) and a string cheese for lunch, string cheese for a snack and chicken breast for dinner, and I could have eaten my house.
then I would add two or three more protein meals to the day, for a total of 5-6 small protein meals a day.
I do this even now, at 7 years post op and I am maintaining just fine. I could not get enough nutrition with just 3 meals a day.
on 1/26/17 12:40 pm
Just out of curiosity -- had you been eating more carbs in the days before? Also, for me, cheese and egg doesn't really act as a dense protein -- I know it does for some. I hate the feeling of being hungry -- and I have found, that unfortunately, neither cheese nor eggs work well if I am having a "hungry pouch" day. Would you be opposed to trying some pieces of grilled chicken, cut up steak, or even a hamburger patty in place of those things to see if perhaps you would have more satiety?
"What you eat in private, you wear in public." --- Kat
No, it wasn't triggered by an increased in carb consumption. My carbs tend to go higher on the weekend when I do a longer run or a double workout. The egg and sausage combo usually sticks with me for a long time. I had it for breakfast this morning and it's now 12:43 and I haven't even considered warming up my lunch. There are days where there is no rhyme or reason. And I'm not opposed to chicken steak or a patty for breakfast. The people around me don't even blink when the see me eating steak at 8:00 a.m.
Just out of curiosity (right back at ya!) I see your posts on the menu thread and don't know how you're NOT hungry. I would be a foggy mess if I ate a single sausage link and called it a meal. I get that you only eat dense protein (which is typically my menu) but, don't you get hungry?? How does one link satiate you?
on 1/26/17 1:11 pm
I think what you are describing is completely normal. I definitely have "hungry pouch days" and days when it is so much easier. I guess you were just having a hungry pouch day! :-)
There's a difference between what you are describing as opposed to what I would describe as compulsive eating. I don't get from your post that you were feeling obsessive or guilty about your eating -- but rather that you were physically hungry and thus feeding your body. I see nothing in your menu that is triggering in any way?
To answer your question -- right now I am eating less than I normally do, which started with the AMAW challenge. Truthfully, I normally maintain on 950 to 1100 calories a day and fluctuate between 130 to 138 pounds. I like to get into the high 120's to give myself a cushion -- and actively try to lose anytime I reach 135. I have been going with the momentum I got from the AMAW and have been fortunate enough to have "small pouch days" lately --- coupled with having almost only dense protein, it hasn't been hard lately. It's not always like this!
You asked if I am hungry. Yes, sometimes I am quite hungry. One mantra I have learned (from HollyKim, I believe!) is that "hunger is not an emergency" --- I will be okay putting off fixing that until my next planned snack or meal.
I hope I answered your question!
"What you eat in private, you wear in public." --- Kat
I cannot eat oatmeal at all. It causes RH that takes a good 12-24 hours to correct. I also do not eat any type of wraps or bread and severely limit fruit. My body cannot tell the difference between the sugar in fruit and the sugar in say, a cookie.
I eat meat, poultry, some cheese, and a few non starchy veggies. I often do not eat breakfast, but if I do it is a cheese stick. My stomach just says 'hell no' in the morning.
I don't feel guilty about the food I eat, but if I stray off plan I do remind myself that type of eating is what got me to 300+ pounds and if I continue I am making a conscious choice to risk gain.
I cannot eat like a 'normal' person, because I am not. I have to eat portions and foods that work for me, even if it looks odd to others.
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I don't think is a lot at all, and I always have something between 'breakfast' and 'lunch'. Actually I don't even call them "breakfast/lunch/dinner" any more because in my [twisted] head I should be able to stick to those meals times only-- and I can't. Not because of hunger (my hunger still hasn't returned) but because I just want.to.eat. So I call them meals, and I have 5 of them a day now. My lunch bag usually has two protein based meals and occasionally a piece of fruit.
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things you ate woudl trigger my hunger for later in the day : oatmeal, yogurt with berries...- flat bread...- all of those have carbs that stimulate my insulin and I would get really hungry.
for some people - the calories are important - for me - I need to avoid grains and milk sugars. I can eat more fat and I don't really hungry. and I often have to remind myself to eat. I started eating fruits to get more appetite. so I can eat more...and gain a few lbs back.
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