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if you are not already doing it- go get a digital scale and start measuring your food. you won't have restriction until about 3-4 months or so out. even now i have to measure myself to make sure I don't overeat. Your brain will tell you to eat until you pop and you don't want to end back up in the ER for overeating.

thanks I do measure/weigh every bite, log in on MFP and the daily menu thread

I'm so sorry you are dealing with this.  I'm a couple weeks behind you but I had revision surgery so my lapband came out at the same time as RNY. I know you are in Rhode Island and went to a center of excellence, but I don't know if you used the same center I did because I know there are two. I haven't had any problems with protein either but I'm also never hungry. I can tell if I eat too quickly or if I need to stop eating but that has happened very recently. The one time I think I had more than my pouch wanted I did felt a lot of pain in the middle of my back so that could be what you are feeling. That pain was not at all like the band pain. I always measure my food and log into mfp as well but my head hunger kicks in when I've finished what I've measured but I want more so I'm dealing a lot with head hunger but not real hunger. If I were in your situation I would call the Dr. office and see it they could help you understand why your not feeling restriction and why you are always hungry. Maybe they can help you figure it out. 

Thank you..I have an appointment coming up soon.

Unfortunately your band may have cause nerve damage. Permanent nerve damage. You will not be the first or the last. 

That's why most of us tell people not to get that device. There may be nothing you can do. Most of my restriction came back in month 3. 

Talk to your doc. Maybe he can run some tests. 

Nerve damage is/was one of my biggest fears going into bypass this time. My surgeon couldn't do the RnY when he took the band out because of the physical damage from that #&%@n band. I have an appointment coming up soon, I have a list of questions ready!

Good to gear your are going to talk to the doc. 

In addition - I am over 8 years Post op and my pouch is small. And normally I have great restrictions. 

But ..there are foods or drinks that makes my pouch "numb" ... Over the years I have days that I don't feel restrictions.  I could eat and eat and eat... I have my food allergies and intorerances.  

I.e drinking diet soda makes me hungry and my pouch super "slippery". I think it is the chemicals and aspartamenor splenda in those.  And a lot of protein shakes have a lot of chemicals and artificial sweeteners added. I no longer can drink that. (most makes me sick - I become very sensitive)

Also - sugar - even the natural -in fruits, milk makes me less sensitive to full signals.  I use fruits now (grapefruit, berries) as a way to allow me to eat more when I had not enough food that day. 

I do hope your restrictions returns. Some people heal the insides in 3 months - but it may take you 6or 8 months for yours to fully heal. In a meantime - measure your food and really try to not over at so you don't accidentally damage - enlarge your stoma. 

Thank you for your help!!!

You're really a revision because you had a band and now you revised to a rny.... But you are way more than your bariatric surgeries. 

No you're not being whiney and it's understandable to be lost. However, IMNSHO so many people don't realize the importance of not just head hunger issues but how much of wls long term success is not in your abdominal region and in your head, with some exceptions. 

And then there is a factor of LUCK, I'll explain. 

I just had a straight rny takedown over 6 yrs ago, I have severe chronic pain issues like you do and I really feel for you, don't get me wrong. No one has bariatric surgery thinking it won't work. Except I actually thought that. My Dad had wls when I was in the 6th grade. It worked well for a year (this was 35 years ago) and gained it all back. So while we didn't talk about bariatric surgery then , in my family and we still don't, even though 3 out of 5 of us in my immediately family (have a thin mom, have a thin sister, have a sister who's 14 years post rny and still thin, never had any complications and can eat more than, me a reversed chick or my never had wls sister and keep her weight off and my father who was revised the day before my sister, is still SMO). 

I'm not trying to be flippant when I say like in life, when it comes down to bariatric surgery, certain things lack a fairness. I probably was the most compliant wls peep in my family and my gastric bypass had catastrophic consequences and I nearly died  several times and have irreversible disabilities from the long term nutrtitional defiencies. 

Point I'm trying to say, is that we could ruminate when we have severe chronic pain issues, about the unfairness of it. Or a faulty "wls" tool. As while I'm the only one in my family who participates at all in the wls communities to provide support. And the drastic long term outcomes in my family with wls, as far as my dad, my sister and me, is not usually anything resembling normal for wls peeps, but for reasons of why you feel bad, could help you, this is why I bother. 

My sister only knows from being pretty compliant the first year. And now how she keeps her weight off, 14 years later is by regular intense exercise. 

My Dad would have wls #3 if he could, but truthfully he'd also own, that it probably wouldn't help very much as he doesn't want to not be able to lose food as a ocping mechanism, as his revision made it EASIER to eat more, because of adhesions being removed. And revisions 14 years ago, my dad looked worse than I did, right after my reversal. While we both had open surgeries, he had gotten fillet'd a 2nd time breastbone to pubic bone, had ng tubes and jp drain tubes, he was in surgery much longer, than I was. I was 10 months post rny, picked him up when discharged, he came home and asked my mom to make 2 turkey sausages with buns and I got nauesous from just the smell. 

While I bounce quite a bit, post reversal, I had a major regain PRIOR to my reversal due to meds. And even though I couldn't keep anything down, as I threw up everything, daily, I still gained almost 100 lbs out of the 107 lbs that I lost. I was technically "only" a 100 lbs overweight the week of my rny and again, almost 8 years after it. 

While I have social media ties to a lot of long term successful wls peeps and some of us vary in our opinions, as I'm not anti-wls, I know it can work great for a lot of people. And people have to find a way that it works for them, as I've seen as a long term post op, people not be able to eat very much and still not lose weight and people who can eat a lot and are super thin. 

In my case I had to make my peace that it wasn't likely that I'd ever be thin again. I just didn't want to go through everything I did and be as heavy as I was starting out. I had to make my peace with that food wasn't my best friend or my worst enemy, that I'm usually my worst enemy with anything and try to find some balance. 

I had to realize that once I got over as while it's normal to regret having wls for many reasons and I had pretty good reasons to regret it, that I wouldn't regret it and learn from it. 

It also doesn't help I fall in a category that NO ethical bariatric surgeon would do another wls on me. My surgeon at my heaviest wouldn't and by the time I needed my reversal to save my life, I didn't care what weight I was (I was down 60 lbs and went from a size 24 to a 14 by the time I was reversed) either thin or heavy, I just wanted to have a shot of living what would be a life that was completely unrecognizable from the time I had my rny almost 9 years before. 

I also realized  that I don't EVER want to have wls again. I never wanted wls for "health" reasons, other than this discomfort that comes from being heavy. So even though it would be highly unlikely even if I became SMO, no surgeon would touch me, I don't have it in me to go through all of that again. 

Point I'm trying to make is, do you give up, just because you don't have a working wls tool? Or fight for a 3rd surgery evne if you aren't thinking that now, you might if you feel discouraged and your entitled to feel the way you do. And you have to decide what's best for you.

I've gotten so much hate from people in the wls community, at times  because I'm more than okay with being an "inbetweenie" and making my peace with the fact that I'm not what I eat, what I weight or what I look like but at the same time still am able to keep a significant amount of weight off (70 lbs) and eat what I want, within what's reasonable for me. I can't eat as much as my 14 year post rny and I can't work out like she does, anymore. But I do try to do what I can as far as movement and there are times that I'm either physically hungry or want something. Having permission to eat it helps but also having an eating disordered history, there are times I can't eat in moderation and when I'm binging on foods and that doesn't feel good either. 

Finding balance is hard for a lot of people, especially wls peeps. I'm not saying it's impossible, just saying if people would be honest. Most people if they touch a hot burner and get burned, know not to do that again, but if they eat foods that either make them feel bad or bad about themselves they do that over and over again. For me, I don't want to live that way anymore. 

You have to find what best balances you, is the point I'm trying to say that. The only reason why I give people practically my life story, when writing responses is that if I just said "find what best balances you", that would be kinda vague and almost arrogant if I assumed things about you, that none of us can assume. I don't know your medical and mental health history, I don't know what meds your on and we're humans and I happen to have a life history of "what can go wrong will" but I can't think about that all the time, as it's not in my best interest. 

You'll have to trust that you'll find that for yourself. Whether it's contained in the combo  in the wls community, out of the wls community, with help from  medical and mental health professionals and/or a lot of soul searching of trying to figure out what works best for you.

I can tell you though from a lot of experience not with just myself but a lot of others, that if you don't, it won't matter, long term if you're able to lose the weight and keep it off. Because without doing the mental/emotional work, quite a few wls peeps even if they can stay thin, will sabotage their lives in different ways and are just as miserable as they are thin, as they were when they were the thinnest. 

I hope this helped. If it was too wordy and/or you need clarification, let me know. 

Thank you for taking time to offer your story, you have seen WLS from all angles!