marriage and wls?

Sparklekitty, Science-Loving Derby Hag
on 4/6/16 1:06 pm
RNY on 08/05/19

Ok, let's try that again. "Cake that is chocolate is delicious."

This is not the same as "Cake that is NOT chocolate is NOT delicious." 

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chulbert
on 4/6/16 1:17 pm - Rochester, NY
RNY on 01/21/13

Almost.  You need to swap the order too. 

Cake that is chocolate is delicious. 

Cake that is NOT delicious is NOT chocolate. 

A marriage that is good will endure. 

A marriage that does NOT endure is NOT good. 

If the first statement in each pair is true then the second must also be true. 

Sparklekitty, Science-Loving Derby Hag
on 4/6/16 1:22 pm
RNY on 08/05/19

You can't swap the order, because that's not what I said.

I give up.

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chulbert
on 4/6/16 1:28 pm - Rochester, NY
RNY on 01/21/13

It is a logical conclusion of what was said.  If the conditional statement is true then its contrapositive must be true.

CathyV
on 4/6/16 3:54 pm

Just to be clear, my I would like my marriage to both be *good* and to *not end*....lol

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on 4/6/16 6:46 pm

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GeekMonster, Insolent Hag
on 4/6/16 3:25 pm - CA
VSG on 12/19/13

On a personal level, did your marriage fail or succeed after WLS?  

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chulbert
on 4/6/16 4:51 pm - Rochester, NY
RNY on 01/21/13

I've never been married.  I had a relationship that ended after surgery but I don't really attribute that to my weight loss. 

H.A.L.A B.
on 4/6/16 12:10 pm

if the marriage is that good for BOTH people ...why end it???

marriage ends because someone is not happy in the relationship... even if they say "it is me, not you... ....blah blah blah..

any other reason to end "good" marriage is for financial gain... like to pay less taxes  or when one person needs government help  like social security, disability or other social benefits... to get on the system support...

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chulbert
on 4/6/16 12:58 pm - Rochester, NY
RNY on 01/21/13

I think the truth is that extreme weight loss can indeed change people.  Maybe not their morals or values but definitely their goals, interests, and motivation, and that can put an entirely legitimate strain on a relationship that previously met the needs of both parties.  It does not in my mind mean a the relationship "failed" because the parties ultimately chose to go separate ways. 

I used to be a recluse that played video games until the wee hours of the morning, ordered awful takeout food for every meal, sat and watched television, and generally didn't do much outside the house or with other people.  Now I play volleyball 3 nights a week, go to the gym, ride my bicycle and run for charities, eat healthy, and generally lead an active, social life.  What if my partner enjoyed the life we had but not the life I now want to live?  Did we not have a strong, successful relationship up to that point?  Was it a failure just because one of us changed and it no longer met both our needs?  I strongly believe no.

Thus my discomfort when someone says a good relationship will endure because it logically implies a relationship that doesn't endure wasn't good.

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