Stuck/platea/what's wrong with me

cabin111
on 3/5/16 9:04 pm

If you've just had surgery and have hit a stall...Maybe you think your weightloss is over...Go buy some new clothes.  Pay top dollar for some nice duds...Within days the clothes will be falling off of you...   

cabin111
on 3/5/16 9:25 pm

Disregard if you have seen this before.  But for you new people who hit a stall for several weeks and feel frustrated that the scale is not moving the copy and paste below may help you...Brian  

Below is a copy and paste from DX...very knowledgeable man.  It might help.  

Still staying on-track calorie-wise? And the scale shows you stopping? Or Even Gaining?!?!? ----------------------------Re-Post Unsolicitedadvice/info... -------------------------------------- Pull back from your 'daily' charting, and look at a weekly or even monthly. There are up and down spikes each day, But if you 'graph' the highest to the lowest, I'd bet there is still A downward slope over the course of the month. There's an 8 to 10lb. volume of "wiggle room" due to water alone. And it comes into play a lot. This has to do with our bodies using glycogen for short term energy storage. Glycogen is not very soluble, But it is stored in our muscles for quick energy - One pound of glycogen requires 4 lbs of water to keep it soluble, And the average glycogen storage capacity is about 2 lbs. So, when you are not getting in enough food, (Like when you drop down to your calorie intake) Your body turns first to stored glycogen, Which is easy to break down for energy. And when you use up 2 lbs of glycogen, You also lose 8 lbs of water that was used to store it Voila -- the "easy" 10 lbs that most people lose in the first week of any diet. As you stay in caloric deficit, however, Your body starts to 'realize' that this is not a short term problem. You start mobilizing fat from your adipose tissue And burning fat for energy. But your body also 'realizes'---- (by way of your liver releasing hormones signaling low Cal intake) ---That fat can't be used for short bursts of energy - Like, to outrun a saber-tooth tiger. So, it starts converting some of the fat into glycogen, And rebuilding the glycogen stores. And as it puts back the 2 lbs of glycogen into the muscle, 8 lbs of water has to be stored with it to keep it soluble. So, even though you might still be LOSING energy content to your body, (Thus showing negative Calorie load overall) Your weight will not go down or you might even GAIN for a while As you retain water to dissolve the glycogen that is being reformed and stored. Yes? The whole 'weight-loss' process is not a straight "Slide" down the scale. More like "Stair-Steps," (Down then forward, then down, then forward, etc... As your body cycles fat out of "deep storage" and through the Liver Into the muscles as Glycogen. The muscles and Liver can hold about a 3 weeks supply. This is why many people find that their "Stall" or "Plateau" Breaks when adding a bit of exercise And upping their water intake, or in the case of an "extreme exerciser," The total Calorie or Protein Intake, To signal the liver to let go of more Glycogen. Fear not, many people who are now enjoying life at a normal BMI Once had a few weeks or so of thinking- "...my weight loss has been awfully slow, has it stopped..."? Hope this helps some. You are doing Great! Keep it Up! Best Wishes-Mike Wazowski Dx

SkinnyScientist
on 3/6/16 1:55 am

HI!  I am not expert...just someone who struggles with blood sugar issues too (Me: PCOS; Hubby: Diabetes).

My first piece of advice is to dump the lean cuisine. In my experience they are very carby and the not-good-carbs at that.

My next piece of advice is to cook...using good, low glycemic index carbs...think pears, apples and sweet potatoes. Sorry...rice and noodles are out. Spaghetti squash and zucchini is IN.

Keep a crunchy, sweet asian pear or Fiji apple on hand wiht a stick of string cheese for a snack to stop blood sugar from dropping.

According to a diabetic colleague of mine, hydration effect blood sugar..so keep drinking your water.

RNY Surgery: 12/31/2013; 

Current weight (2/27/2015) 139lbs, ~14% body fat

Three pounds below Goal!!! Yay !  

rondadls
on 3/6/16 3:57 am

Hi, I also am about 5 months out and in a stall. I have been for a week or two. I also had one back in November that lasted about 3 weeks. I chart my food and keep track of my exercise. I know that my calories are in check. I really believe from reading all the comments on here that this is completely normal.  I dropped very fast after my last stall broke. I am sure that if you keep up what you know you should be doing that you will be down the weight by the time your cruise is here. You might be careful on those lean cuisine they have a lot of carbs and salt. Good luck,

KrystalSlate
on 3/7/16 5:44 pm
RNY on 09/23/15

you were right! i woke up this morning to a 3lb loss! Thanks for putting a positive note,  i was beginning to feel like i was a failure and an idiot.

    

rocky513
on 3/6/16 5:22 am - WI

Your blood sugar dropping is probably reactive hypoglycemia which is common after RNY.  You can help relieve it by eating a protein with a small amount of carbs and a healthy fat.  A cracker with a gob of peanut butter is my "go to" when I have an episode.  Fruit would cause my blood sugar to spike and them fall again.   You can prevent the symptoms by eating high protein/low carb and adding a few healthy fats like avocado, a little nut butter, and almonds. 

Your menu is a little carb heavy.  The burrito insides are OK but the tortilla it's wrapped in is not.  Ditch the applesauce.  Its a slider food and even though it's no sugar added the body will read fruit as sugar.  Limit fruit to one serving per day and remember that a serving is 1/2 an apple.  Berries are the best choice because they are low glycemic.  Stick to meat and veggies and skip the breads (and all things make with flour).

You have to get in the habit of measuring your portions out.  Those of us with weight issues do not know what a proper portion looks like.  It's easy for us to let portion sizes creep up and not even realize it's happening.  Measuring your portions will help you visualize what a portion should look like.  I'm five years out and still measure because I know if I didn't, I would over eat at every meal and gain my weight back.  I can not trust my judgement where food is concerned.

You can do this!

 

HW 270 SW 236 GW 160 CW 145 (15 pounds below goal!)

VBG Aug. 7, 1986, Revised to RNY Nov. 18, 2010

rocky513
on 3/6/16 5:30 am - WI

I also noted that you are having a V-8 fusion for  breakfast.  Liquid calories are always a bad idea  and I hope you are not drinking that V-8 while you are eating!   No drinking with meals or for 30 minutes after you eat is a lifetime rule we must follow.  The biggest culprit in weight gain after surgery is drinking with meals.  Drinking pushes the food through our pouches fast and allows us to eat more food at one sitting.  If you don't chew well and force the poorly chewed food through with a drink, you can stretch your stoma.  When that happens, you are screwed!  A stretched stoma means that food does not stay in the pouch and you constantly feel hungry.  It is not an easy fix either.  

HW 270 SW 236 GW 160 CW 145 (15 pounds below goal!)

VBG Aug. 7, 1986, Revised to RNY Nov. 18, 2010

Maria27
on 3/6/16 8:18 am - Chicago, IL
RNY on 03/17/15

Listen to the great advice above. I just wanted to reiterate that if I were you I would permanently remove the following items from my diet: tortillas, applesauce of any kind, any type of frozen entree, and all liquid calories. These foods specifically are not good choices for anyone, especially RNY patients. My advice is to try to incorporate more whole and minimally processed foods into your diet and to focus on getting more protein.

Height: 5'5" HW: 290 Consultation Weight: 276 SW: 257 CW: 132

KrystalSlate
on 3/6/16 9:36 am
RNY on 09/23/15

thanks for all the advice. i literally just learned about reactive hypoglycemia last night from on here.  i never even imagined that. being in a family of type 2 diabetes, it's always be carbs equals high blood sugar. im going to work on getting rid of carbs, im struggling with meat it makes me neausous so i end up eating something else. i do measure out normally 4 oz of meat and 5 oz of whatever else i put on my plate,  but i don't normally eat that.  i have been buying the birds eye protien packs,  that i will replace lean cuisine with,  i do get some lean cuisine that don't have meant carbs like the salmon one. i really need to focus on this carb thing.  So carrots are carbs? i only like raw ones,  but eat them at night as snack.  i will get rid of fruit. i hate diet drinks,  so i really only have water, 

 

i do have 1 V8 infusion energy every morning,  its 10 g of sugar, 50 cal and 80mg caffeine, i hate coffee, it's my wake me up, and what i take with meds. 

 

im taking everything above and studying. i need a new breakfast idea, i don't have time to cook, and need salty not sweet. any ideas on that? 

    

H.A.L.A B.
on 3/6/16 10:11 am

10 gr of sugar is a lot of sugars. And in liquid form.  The worse , IMO. That not only would guarantee high insulin release but after that almost certain blood sugar drop. 

Most day I get 10gr of sugar or less in a whole day.  And I would never drink it. 

You need caffeine -get the 5 hr SF energy shots. Get a pill that has it. 

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

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