What changes have you made since RNY surgery?

The point I'm trying to make is to be compassionate and respectful toward other people.  Changing one's lifestyle is a very difficult process for most people and many of us go through phases that hinder our progress.  Denial is one such phase.  In a perfect world, everyone would have fixed all their issues by the time of surgery, but the reality is that some people struggle and have to continue to work at it.  I don't think it's right to judge that someone's mentality is undesireable because they are at a different stage in their journey than  you are.

We also have to take into consideration that not everyone has equal intelligence.  Some people will not be  smart enough to understand that there is a limited "honeymoon" following surgery.

If a person is not smart enough to use their honeymoon period to make the necessary food and exercise changes and lose their excess weight, there is almost zero chance that they will ever do it.

Making changes gets harder every year and metabolism slows down considerably after surgery.  People who are slow to make needed changes are just not smart enough to be successful at weight loss surgery.

I'm not sure I see your point.  Are we to think less of people who are less intelligent?  We're all born with a certain level of intelligence.  We can't change that.  Should we be disrespected for how we were born?

Nobody is talking about disrespecting anyone. 

But some people shouldn't have the surgery if for whatever reason - they can't handle the responsibility of life post op. 

My sister would be a last person I would suggest has surgery..  I don't think she could handle the life postop.  She is not stupid - just different.    WLS woudl either kill her or shorten her life, and make her quality of life really bad.  I don't love her any less, nor I disrespect her...  

you are taking people's point way too personally seeing opinions taht aren't there...things you apparently think and feel..

I just see it happen far too often.  Particularly when it comes to the topic of obesity.  Outright hatred and disrespect toward people who struggle with weight.  You and others helped me see Laura's post was not about that though.

We are cool.  BTW.. You show an ability to own it and run with it.. . not very many people do that once they get some of us rattled... Kuddos to you. Really. It shows character.  I do see you in a different light now.  

I think you'll do OK. We all stmble.. Well, most of us... Get grief, accept responsibility, correct the actions Or appologize for making a mistake... and move to the next level... ... 

if someone is not smart enough to handle life post op RNY or any WLS, they shouldn't get the surgery.   Period. They are most likely better off without it.  (unless such a person has a permanent caretaker who would make sure they eat right , take vitamins, water, etc)

I see nothing in Laura's comments that would qualify as judgmental.  She is pointing out what she has witnessed on OH from people who do not lose weight or regain weight, yet refuse to acknowledge their culpability.  If you want someone to hold your hand and tell you that you're doing great even when you eat a box of Girl Scout cookies, it's going to be a very long road ahead for you, my dear.

> I see nothing in Laura's comments that would qualify as judgmental.

It's possible I read into it too much.  Reading it now, I agree with you.

 > If you want someone to hold your hand and tell you that you're doing great even when you eat a box of Girl Scout cookies, it's going to be a very long road ahead for you, my dear.

I'm not sure if you're referring to me specifically or the people with denial that Laura was talking about, but since when is respect for your fellow man/woman (what I'm talking about) hand-holding and lying to people?

If your mentality is that you will eat whatever the hell you want after surgery? And you think that's OK? Tell that to the people who've eaten "normal" food like tacos/pad Thai/popcorn soon after surgery and suffered serious medical complications.