Dont do it

H.A.L.A B.
on 2/1/16 8:01 am

Drinking too much alcohol can cause most of not all of your symptoms. 

You can stop drinking.  But it would need to be your decision.  Nobody can do that for you. 

I developed some issues post op RNY... Gut issues.. Hernias.. Gut spasms.. You name it.  When I ate food I would hurt.. Alcohol helped with the pain.  I would say "I eaithr be drunk or hungry" sometimes I chose one over the other... Then my iron dropped.. Adding low energy and depression... Taking oral iron cause severe gut pain..that again - alcohol would help... But it was not a life... 

It took me a year to get iron infusions.. B12 shots (weekly) my hormones adjusted (HRT).. I still would have my gut pains when I ate..so finally I had yet another (3rd) surgery to correct my twisted guts... 

I still deal with a lot of gut pain and discomfort. Over the years I developed IBS.. But getting drunk is not an answer... I refuse to be a statistic.  I take vitamins and minerals... I don't drink... I don't keep alcohol at home. 

I am so far away with that that 1- 2 glasses of wine don't get me into drinking a whole bottle - but even one glass with dinner can and will disturb my sleep... I toss and turn..and wake up every couple of hours..if not every hour... I know... So I chose not to drink... My sleep and my well being is more important. 

Anxiety attacks?  I get severe RH that feels like severe anxiety attack.. And I get them most after having a drink.  Wine not only does affect how my body process carbs and fat - but also my choices of what I eat... That is another reason why drinking is not a good idea... 

Get clean from alcohol... Get tested for vitamins and minerals... Get them in optimism for you level.. Then you may find out that most of your issues were alcohol related... 

 

BTW- I don't blame RNY on my issues... Sure it probably contributed to some... But as I look back on my life - I probably lived all my life with undiagnosed IBS. Low iron and low B12... As I got smaller I no longer acepted "you are obese and that's why you feel like that" from doctors.. I am also older, wiser and I can make choices... One of them is to give up alcohol. It does not help to drink, it does not fix what it wrong..and it makes it much worse in a long run.  

Give it up... Good luck ..I hope you find help.. 

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

Sparklekitty, Science-Loving Derby Hag
on 2/1/16 8:07 am
RNY on 08/05/19
On February 1, 2016 at 1:59 PM Pacific Time, Tinam61 wrote:

If you want more issues then what you have before surgery, dont do it.  I have and know many people who have had RNY, the band and the sleeve, that have exchanged their food intake with alcohol.  ITS NOT GOOD.

I never drank and I have several other people that I know that didnt drink before surgery that do now.  There was never alcohol in my house.  A few years ago, probably 7 years out I had a drink, I thought wow, this makes me feel great, and I had another and another.....No I wouldnt call myself an alcoholic, I call it what happened to me after this surgery, because like I said I never drank before.  Yes, I blame the RNY for many things, like I never needed glasses, they tell me because I lost alot of weight that there is fat in your brain and when the shrinks your eyes shift, therefore you need glasses, I dont sleep, I have panic attacks, that I never had before, I had a nervous break down that I never had before,  and I blame this surgery for it. I now have a low white blood count that I never had before surgery.  No Dr can explain it, but I CAN.  ALL these issues came after about 6 years out.

 

I am writing Dr. Phil on this, and I hope that he will get me on his show so that I can warn people about this surgery!

 

Dr. Phil features all sorts of people, issues, and weight-loss concepts. He gathers VERY little attention, partly because of low reach, and partly because anyone with medical/psych knowledge takes him seriously (and rightly so).

Alcohol addiction can and does happen after WLS. And it can and does happen after OTHER major life changes, such as marital issues, grief, job loss, or disability. And without appropriate support, like therapy or a personal support network, any of those can cause anxiety issues.

If your current situation is rough, I'd suggest speaking to your surgeon to get things straightened out, including blood work and a review of your current diet and vitamin regimen. It would also be wise to speak to a mental health professional who is experienced with WLS patients or body-image/health issues; your surgeon may be able to give a recommendation.

Sparklekitty / Julie / Nerdy Little Secret (#42)
Roller derby - cycling - triathlon
VSG 2013, RNY conversion 2019 due to GERD. Trendweight here!

Juliek7312
on 2/1/16 8:27 am

This post makes me sad. Maybe you should read what you wrote and really think about it. A single surgery is the sole reason for all of your problems? I wonder what you blame for your weight gain pre-wls.

Height: 5'5" HW: 370 SW: 363 CW: 177 RNY: 4/28/15

 

Tinam61
on 2/1/16 3:30 pm

wow really?  I guess I shouldnt have posted my post, didnt think people were so narrow minded.

Juliek7312
on 2/1/16 3:34 pm, edited 2/1/16 7:32 am

your post has 0 logic behind it. You say over and over that youre not an alcoholic because you didnt drink before the surgery. If you smoked crack would you not be a crack addict because you didnt do it before the surgery? Look up the definition of ADDICTION.

Height: 5'5" HW: 370 SW: 363 CW: 177 RNY: 4/28/15

 

CerealKiller Kat71
on 2/1/16 8:40 am
RNY on 12/31/13

There are people who blame everything wrong in their life on their obesity.  Some people blame their spouse, their lack of spouse, their parents, and others their addictions.

It's your life to miss. 

I hope you work on your transfer addiction -- alcoholism can cause panic attacks and contribute to a "nervous breakdown" -- it can also contribute to liver issues which can cause low white blood cell counts.  Additionally, everyone ages and eventually needs glasses.  Thousands of people have an RNY every year and do not end up feeling the way you do nor become alcoholics.  Alcohol is contraindicated after WLS -- just like NSAIDs.  If you take NSAIDs after surgery and get an ulcer; is it the surgery that is the problem?  Or is it the patient's choices that are?

If no doctor can explain it -- seems to me that blaming your WLS is a bit presumptuous. 

Seems to me that your RNY has served a great purpose in your life.  It is something you can blame rather than looking at what you may be doing to contribute to your own problems.  

So, my question is this: what would you blame your life on if you hadn't had surgery?  

 

"What you eat in private, you wear in public." --- Kat

Tinam61
on 2/1/16 3:31 pm

I did everything I was told to do, thank you.  And no I am not an alcoholic.

hollykim
on 2/1/16 3:58 pm - Nashville, TN
Revision on 03/18/15
On February 1, 2016 at 11:31 PM Pacific Time, Tinam61 wrote:

I did everything I was told to do, thank you.  And no I am not an alcoholic.

well,if you are not an alcoholic,then just stop drinking. That will solve one of your problems. Keep us posted on how that goes,k?

 


          

 

Grim_Traveller
on 2/1/16 8:44 am
RNY on 08/21/12

I watched my sister drink herself to death at age 42. I can't tell you how sad it was for everyone, especially her 5 year old daughter. It was a slow, painful, horrible death.

She had many of the same qualities that you display in your posts. Complete and utter denial she was an alcoholic. Refusal to do anything about it. Blaming all of her problems on things that had nothing, or very little, to do with them. And the inability to listen to and take advice.

You got some real help in posts above, but I would bet you won't listen to a single one. You'll just keep blaming.

If you do get on Dr. Phil, what do you think will happen? You will get no sympathy, and he'll cut you a new one on national TV. And the entire audience will be nodding their heads while he does it.

I'm sorry if this seems mean. I hope you get help. I really, really do. But I also wish I could go back in time, be a little less sympathetic with my sister, and kick her ass a lot harder. Because you may think you've lost fat from your brain, but right now I think it's very, very fat.

6'3" tall, male.

Highest weight was 475. RNY on 08/21/12. Current weight: 198.

M1 -24; M2 -21; M3 -19; M4 -21; M5 -13; M6 -21; M7 -10; M8 -16; M9 -10; M10 -8; M11 -6; M12 -5.

Deanna798
on 2/1/16 11:39 am
RNY on 08/04/15

I'm so sorry about your sister.  

Age: 44 | Height: 5' 3" | Starting January 2015: 291 | RNY 8/4/15 with Dr. Arthur Carlin| Goal: 150

Listen to advice and accept discipline, and at the end you will be counted among the wise. ~Proverbs 19:20

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