RNY reversal and revision to the Sleeve

zann50
on 11/22/15 3:37 am

So, I am asking strictly from a curiosity of the anatomical changes to your body.  Your pyloric valve is gone forever...they cannot recreate.  Is your physician going to 'undo' the changes made to your intestines?  How will he change your pouch shape to the vertical 'banana' shape of a sleeve?  Will you malabsorb still?

Wow!!!  I would be doing a detailed seek and search for a doc who has performed 'successfully' this procedure on multiple pts. No disrespect to you or your physician, but aren't you like really concerned regarding the long term effects?  

I wish the best for you.  God's will be done.  Sending positive thoughts to you snowball!

snowball24life
on 11/22/15 4:20 am - NY
RNY on 05/21/13

Of course I'm concerned, I'm nervous beyond belief. Hence why I wrote here! Thank you for the well wishes.

Grim_Traveller
on 11/22/15 5:26 am
RNY on 08/21/12
On November 22, 2015 at 11:37 AM Pacific Time, suzanne R. wrote:

So, I am asking strictly from a curiosity of the anatomical changes to your body.  Your pyloric valve is gone forever...they cannot recreate.  Is your physician going to 'undo' the changes made to your intestines?  How will he change your pouch shape to the vertical 'banana' shape of a sleeve?  Will you malabsorb still?

Wow!!!  I would be doing a detailed seek and search for a doc who has performed 'successfully' this procedure on multiple pts. No disrespect to you or your physician, but aren't you like really concerned regarding the long term effects?  

I wish the best for you.  God's will be done.  Sending positive thoughts to you snowball!

That's what they do. They essentially undo the RNY, and put everything back the way it was. Then they do a sleeve. So it's complicated, and not performed very often.

6'3" tall, male.

Highest weight was 475. RNY on 08/21/12. Current weight: 198.

M1 -24; M2 -21; M3 -19; M4 -21; M5 -13; M6 -21; M7 -10; M8 -16; M9 -10; M10 -8; M11 -6; M12 -5.

H.A.L.A B.
on 11/22/15 6:14 am

In most cases RNY the pyloric valve is not "gone forever" but it is bypassed. Left in the body with the rest of the stomach. Take down of RNY - means putting it back together - the pouch and the remnant stomach. Then if converted to VSG - create a sleeve and remove the rest of the stomach. Very complicated and long procedure. 

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

zann50
on 11/21/15 11:29 pm

Thank you for sharing.  I have spent some time using the search feature on this site to garner more education on revisions/reversals.  

I do hope this is resolution for the OP.  Hala and Grim...thanks again for your responses :):)

zann50
on 11/22/15 8:02 am

Sorry to double-dip this post, but I failed to add there is an excellent thread from 2012ish on reversal...the posters there also referred to it as "take down".

I know we have all been annoyed with the updates (IT) here lately...but the search feature has not been a problem.  Yay!!!

Ladytazz
on 11/24/15 9:50 am

No, the pyloric valve isn't gone forever.  Well, at least most people's aren't.  Mine is because I had a subtotal gastroectomy.  My stomach was removed except for the pouch but that isn't common and was the result of my revision.

Anyway, in most RNY patients the pyloric valve is just hanging out with the rest of the remnant stomach, unused but very much present.

WLS 10/28/2002 Revision 7/23/2010

High Weight  (2002) 240 Revision Weight (2010) 220 Current Weight 115.

Citizen Kim
on 11/22/15 9:09 am - Castle Rock, CO

If he is not on the DS vetted list, I would run like the wind ...   RH is nothing compared to a conversion done by someone who doesn't do them regularly.  

And removing part of your pancreas?  This has red light written all over it!  1-5 years is prime time for RH and I would not have someone perform this risky of a surgery at this point of your post surgery life.

Spend a couple of years on a no more than 50 per day carb diet before subjecting yourself to this. 

Proud Feminist, Atheist, LGBT friend, and Democratic Socialist

White Dove
on 11/22/15 9:38 am - Warren, OH

The diet that most of us have to follow for RH is limiting carbs to under 40 a day (as Kim pointed out).  That diet should not have caused a 30 pound regain.  I would take Kim's advice and treat this with a low carb diet before having surgery. 

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

Thornbury150
on 11/23/15 11:44 am
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