Research and questions

Awilder
on 8/7/15 9:02 am

Meant to add, those who did not keep in contact with him, he has no idea of their status. The non compliance patience he has had to reverse the surgery in a couple.

 

Grim_Traveller
on 8/7/15 9:06 am
RNY on 08/21/12

Why would he reverse the surgery because they were noncompliant?

6'3" tall, male.

Highest weight was 475. RNY on 08/21/12. Current weight: 198.

M1 -24; M2 -21; M3 -19; M4 -21; M5 -13; M6 -21; M7 -10; M8 -16; M9 -10; M10 -8; M11 -6; M12 -5.

Awilder
on 8/7/15 9:51 am

I would assume it would be for them to keep from making themselves sick. One person was in the ER nightly from day one of her release. They eventually found out through family members she was not following the post op diet and causing herself self harm. I guess reversing the surgery was a way to keep the person from pretty much killing themselves due to self abuse. I don't know more than that. I'm sure he had to be vague due to HIPPA laws.

 

Grim_Traveller
on 8/7/15 9:03 am
RNY on 08/21/12
On August 7, 2015 at 7:04 AM Pacific Time, Awilder wrote:

With the way this specific doctor does the surgery, I'm not sure how you could eat too much. He turns the stomach into a tube, like you see in the sleep gastectomy and sleeve bypass. So over eating, theoretically, should be impossible.  I will ask about long term, but if I remember correctly, he's not had anyone regain their weight (that reports back to him yearly as required) with this surgery and he's been doing it for 15 years.

You can eat too much with ANY surgery. Even if they wired your jaw shut. There are 10,247 ways to eat too much after any surgery. 

Any surgeon who says he has never had a patient regain is full of crap. Completely full of crap.

6'3" tall, male.

Highest weight was 475. RNY on 08/21/12. Current weight: 198.

M1 -24; M2 -21; M3 -19; M4 -21; M5 -13; M6 -21; M7 -10; M8 -16; M9 -10; M10 -8; M11 -6; M12 -5.

Awilder
on 8/7/15 9:54 am

As I clarified earlier, he has not had anyone regain who has remained in compliance with the post surgery care and yearly checkups. He has no data on those who have not returned for post op care. He has had patients not lose very much weight though. I should also clarify, that was only for the Roux en Y surgery. He no longer does bands because of the high number of regains in patients.

 

Laura in Texas
on 8/7/15 12:05 pm

Then I guess all surgeons can claim 100% success rates with that reasoning. "If you do what you are supposed to do, you will keep the weight off."

Laura in Texas

53 years old; 5'7" tall; HW: 339 (BMI=53); GW: 140 CW: 170 (BMI=27)

RNY: 09-17-08 Dr. Garth Davis

brachioplasty: 12-18-09 Dr. Wainwright; lbl/bl: 06-28-11 Dr. LoMonaco

"May your choices reflect your hopes and not your fears."

Awilder
on 8/11/15 6:31 am

I went today for another consult with the dietician at this hospital (they require classes on how to properly eat and want you to begin removing certain items from your diet before the surgery. Lucky for me I already don't eat 98% of those items.) Anyhow I asked her about what you said regarding the pouch (I think it was you, if not I apologize.) She said that they were one of the first facilities to begin doing the Roux en Y with a tubular stomach vs a pouch because, as the doctor stated in the seminar, a pouch is easier to stretch, where a tube, like one of those elongated balloons, is much more difficult to stretch.  Therefore, they have far less failures due to a person eating too much and stretching their stomach back out. With a tubular stomach, if you eat too much you're more likely to puke or get serious intestinal upset, which is more like a negative reinforcement not to do it again.

 

 

 

GeekMonster, Insolent Hag
on 8/7/15 11:59 am - CA
VSG on 12/19/13

Can I ask who this surgeon is?  It would be good to know because the information you're receiving is unlike anything we've heard before.

I'd tread with caution with him if I were you.  I'd recommend going to another bariatric center for another insight on the process.

"Oderint Dum Metuant"    Discover the joys of the Five Day Meat Test!

Height:  5'-7"  HW: 449  SW: 392  GW: 179  CW: 220

Mary Gee
on 8/7/15 2:12 pm - AZ
VSG on 05/14/14

You're right Mo,..,,a second oopinion seems called for in this case.

       

 HW: 380 SW: 324 GW: 175  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Awilder
on 8/7/15 5:14 pm

Well, they are actually a team of surgeons for Novant Health Bariatric Solutions. So, it's not as if he works alone. This particular person won't be my surgeon. He just did the seminar.

 

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