PatchMD is Bunk

Cicerogirl, The PhD
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on 8/4/15 10:58 am - OH

I assume this accounts for SOME of it as well... but probably not all of it.  Some of the info the PatchMD people sent me, and some info that I found in my internet searches before I ordered the patches, indicated that -- depending on the vitamin/medication -- as much as half could be destroyed in the intestine before absorption.

You are correct that it is the case with one of the birth control patches (I happened to read a pamphlet on it while cooling my heals in an exam room last week, but I was only half paying attention so don't remember which one)

14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained

You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.

Grim_Traveller
on 8/4/15 7:04 pm
RNY on 08/21/12

I tried the birth control patch. It seems to be working so far.

6'3" tall, male.

Highest weight was 475. RNY on 08/21/12. Current weight: 198.

M1 -24; M2 -21; M3 -19; M4 -21; M5 -13; M6 -21; M7 -10; M8 -16; M9 -10; M10 -8; M11 -6; M12 -5.

AmyDee123
on 8/4/15 9:57 am - Lutz, FL
RNY on 06/12/15

If none of us get answers they should be at the conference.  Hopefully someone can approach them and ask them this specific thing.  I have left them a voicemail, email and a message on their facebook.

LapBand Weight 460 (2006) | Panni Removal Weight 200 (2008) | 3rd kid (2009)
Revision to RNY Weight 355 (June 2015)

    

Felicity Q.
on 8/4/15 10:31 am
DS on 09/28/15

I appreciate you posting this. I was on the fence before and in a dialogue with my surgeon/NUT who said it would account for SOME but not ALL of the nutrients needed...

(Here is my reply on the thread: http://www.obesityhelp.com/forums/rny/5365059/First-day-on-the-patch/#45071384)

I personally am going to wait at least 6 months - 1 year before looking into a patch again. Hopefully more information will be available, and hopefully those that are on them now will be successful and able to share long-term bloodwork results showing everything is good! (Optimism for my friends on the patch - I would never want you to try something that fails and it affects your health!).

Thanks again.

Lap-Band 2011 | DS Revision 9/28/15 | HW: 380 in 2011 | GW: 140

Blog: http://felicitywls.blogspot.com/ | Twitter: @FelicityQ13

nicupnorth
on 8/4/15 10:34 am - Eagle river, WI

Awesome news!  Now I  am panicked, I have been using the patch for a month or so, however I must say my hair and nails have never looked better so something must be working.  Let keep the conversation going!  Would love to see what patchmd had to say.  I did notice that Amazon no longer has them on their website.

H.A.L.A B.
on 8/5/15 11:12 am

There are a lot of people trying the patch *****port great lab values while using only patch for 6 months to 1 year or more...  I use the calcium patch (oral calcium binds me) and my results were good... not great- but very good. I just added one (1) additional calcium pill to my daily dosage. 

 

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

AmyDee123
on 8/4/15 11:07 am - Lutz, FL
RNY on 06/12/15

I received an answer back just now.

"We use nano technology when creating the contents layer that changes the molecular weight of the ingredients."

I ran this by a chemist my husband works with and he said "Yes, this is also done in most patch applications."  He used to work for a pharmaceutical production company out here in Tampa/St. Pete.  He also knows what i am going through and that I am on the patches, so if he says that is not a red flag, then I trust him.

LapBand Weight 460 (2006) | Panni Removal Weight 200 (2008) | 3rd kid (2009)
Revision to RNY Weight 355 (June 2015)

    

AmyDee123
on 8/4/15 11:10 am - Lutz, FL
RNY on 06/12/15

He just sent me this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanomedicine 

My ADD will not allow me to get through the entire wiki article, but he said its explained in that.

 

LapBand Weight 460 (2006) | Panni Removal Weight 200 (2008) | 3rd kid (2009)
Revision to RNY Weight 355 (June 2015)

    

chulbert
on 8/4/15 11:19 am - Rochester, NY
RNY on 01/21/13

Respectfully, I think there was something lost in translation between you and him.  Yes, molecular weight is an important factor in skin permeability but you can't take a pile of stuff and make the pile "lighter".  Honey I Shrunk the Kids and Antman remain firmly in the realm of science fiction.

AmyDee123
on 8/4/15 11:27 am - Lutz, FL
RNY on 06/12/15

Obviously Antman (one of the lesser heros if you ask me but still a cool movie) doesn't exist, however, if there is science I don't understand rather than make my own opinion I go to an expert.  I happen to know a few in this field.  This EXACT field.  And he has nothing to do with this company.  So when I give him the answer they gave me, explain what the initial quandary is, and he says "Yes, that is how it is done" I trust his years of schooling, research, and experience.

I wish I could have a shrink ray, though.  That sounds awesome.  

LapBand Weight 460 (2006) | Panni Removal Weight 200 (2008) | 3rd kid (2009)
Revision to RNY Weight 355 (June 2015)

    

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