Even 2000mg of calcium citrate isn't enough, apparently

SkinnyScientist
on 12/7/14 12:00 pm

HI Lora

Several thoughts (rather quickly EOQ again and wedding!!).

1) Try pairing the calcium citrate with Vitamin D.. They absorb together.

2) Consider taking up weight training. Resistance training (from the ligaments and tendons attaching and pulling against the bone) aid in bone anabolism (i.e. bone building up).  I see lots of squats, lunges, and leg lifts (on the cable machine) in your future.

http://www.webmd.com/osteoporosis/living-with-osteoporosis-7/weight-training

 

I know you have mentioned that you arent too keen on exercise in the past, but give it a whirl 3-4 times per week for 6 months. The only thing you really have to lose is more bone!!!

3) It could be genetic (as others have pointed out).

 

Please consider weight training...  Bone is constantly remodeling itself (ripping itself down (catabolism) and building itself up (anabolism)). The weight training might tip this process in your favor (anabolism)

RNY Surgery: 12/31/2013; 

Current weight (2/27/2015) 139lbs, ~14% body fat

Three pounds below Goal!!! Yay !  

Cicerogirl, The PhD
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on 12/7/14 10:54 pm - OH

At least two of my daily doses has Vit D, as well as extra magnesium, along with the calcium.  (I also take 50,000 units of Vit D twice a week, but that would only be along with one dose of calcium).

Weight training 3-4 times a week...?  Realistically... not gonna happen. Between having a full-time job, a part-time job, and a house/yard/dogs to take care of, finding time to do that during gym hours would be quite difficult.  Then when you add in the fact that I hate going to the gym or rec center... 

14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained

You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.

SkinnyScientist
on 12/8/14 4:54 am

can you try TWO times a week using ankle weights for 5-10 minutes at your home?

It doesnt have to be teh gym...

 

I am worried about your bones!

 

RNY Surgery: 12/31/2013; 

Current weight (2/27/2015) 139lbs, ~14% body fat

Three pounds below Goal!!! Yay !  

Cicerogirl, The PhD
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on 12/8/14 8:14 am - OH

Yes, I could buy some ankle weights and find some exercises to do at home.  Any suggestion for the types of things I should be doing?

 

14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained

You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.

Grim_Traveller
on 12/8/14 9:15 am
RNY on 08/21/12

Ankle weights won't help, nor little dumbbells of any kind. Heavy lifting is the only thing that will build muscle and bone, and ankle weights aren't nearly heavy enough. And ankle weights can cause joint issues, and you certainly don't want that.

Bodyweight exercises will do more for you than small weights. Heavier dumbbells, probably starting at 20 pounds, at least, can help. There are some good adjustable dumbbells that will go from 5 to 50 pounds, but are a little pricey.

Look up muscle hypertrophy, and look online for bodyweight exercises you can do at home. Everyone can work on pushups and the like.

6'3" tall, male.

Highest weight was 475. RNY on 08/21/12. Current weight: 198.

M1 -24; M2 -21; M3 -19; M4 -21; M5 -13; M6 -21; M7 -10; M8 -16; M9 -10; M10 -8; M11 -6; M12 -5.

SkinnyScientist
on 12/8/14 6:21 pm

Lora-not to argue with Grim but try those at the bottom of the web md article

http://www.webmd.com/osteoporosis/living-with-osteoporosis-7/weight-training.

 

I am traveling this week for fittings,but when I am back at the gym I will bug my trainer and see what she has to recommend for exercises.

 

Either way, resistance training in your home (while watching tv...like doing push ups/squats during commericals) isnt going to hurt.

RNY Surgery: 12/31/2013; 

Current weight (2/27/2015) 139lbs, ~14% body fat

Three pounds below Goal!!! Yay !  

SkinnyScientist
on 12/7/14 12:01 pm

HI Lora

Several thoughts (rather quickly EOQ again and wedding!!).

1) Try pairing the calcium citrate with Vitamin D.. They absorb together.

2) Consider taking up weight training. Resistance training (from the ligaments and tendons attaching and pulling against the bone) aid in bone anabolism (i.e. bone building up).  I see lots of squats, lunges, and leg lifts (on the cable machine) in your future.

http://www.webmd.com/osteoporosis/living-with-osteoporosis-7/weight-training

 

I know you have mentioned that you arent too keen on exercise in the past, but give it a whirl 3-4 times per week for 6 months. The only thing you really have to lose is more bone!!!

3) It could be genetic (as others have pointed out).

 

Please consider weight training...  Bone is constantly remodeling itself (ripping itself down (catabolism) and building itself up (anabolism)). The weight training might tip this process in your favor (anabolism

RNY Surgery: 12/31/2013; 

Current weight (2/27/2015) 139lbs, ~14% body fat

Three pounds below Goal!!! Yay !  

LISAFREE
on 12/8/14 7:02 pm

Thank you Lora.  I have my surgeon consult today and had been on the fence.  I thought that the people who ended up with trouble with the malabsorption were the people who weren't on top of the supplements.  I think I'm going with the sleeve. Thanks again.  Lisa

Lisa

 

    

MyLady Heidi
on 12/12/14 2:45 am

I agree although I know the VSG would not have kept me at goal, the second I could of started eating ice cream in quantity and I was stressed out I would of been fat again.  The RNY is dead in my opinion, it will be gone as soon as all the old school doctors learn how to perform the VSG.  Too many risk involved in living with this much altered anatomy.  I have a 73K hospital bill to prove it.

Cicerogirl, The PhD
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on 12/12/14 10:06 am - OH

I understand what you are saying, but I don't think I would have been any less successful with the VSG since it takes a LOT of sugar to make me feel ill, and that is all that the RNY ay does for me beyond what he sleeve would... And it just isn't worth the additional physical issues from the lack of vitamin absorption.

The surgeons I currently work for are already doing FAR more VSGs than RNYs (and only one of the three (the one who is soon retiring) does the DS, so I am not sure what they will do with whatever percentage of their patients don't do well enough with the sleeve.  They very strongly emphasize that surgery is just a small part of the long term success, though, so even the one surgeon who does VSG to DS only does it when patients can show that they are eating properly).  

I know there are those who will argue that the surgeon is overstepping his bounds, but I think he is being the most ethical he can be by not doing a severely malabsorptive procedure on someone who isn't following the rules of a simpler surgery.  My RNY surgeon stopped doing the DS because too many patients were non-compliant with their vitamin regimen.  Talk about playing Russian roulette!

14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained

You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.

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