Never full

But WHY?!?  Those are the things that made you obese in the first place!  If you cannot stay away from them (I don't care whether t was a bite or three bites or 6 bites) for even three weeks, how are you going to change your long term habits?

NOW is the time that your motivation SHOULD BE the highest... Freshly out of surgery, anticipating the weight coming off quickly, anticipating being healthier, etc.  Instead, you are eating crap just to see if you have a reaction?!?  Most people can physically eat almost anything after RNY, so you could eat crap for every meal and snack and very little of it might make you sick.  And right now you will still continue to lose weight because the surgery is doing the work for you.  That won't last long, though, and I fear that if you aren't willing to give up the poor foods (really... you're sticking to your surgeons's restriction of no vegetables yet but are eating pizza and Funyuns?!?  How does that make sense in your head?) you aren't going to lose all the weight and will probably regain some of what you do lose.

You're a big girl and are free to choose what you put in your mouth, but some of us have been here for many years and have seen what happens with people who start having junk food early out, and so we are trying to raise the warning flag for you while you still have time to correct your decisions.

Lora

Thanks you are right.. It sounds really stupid to say I wanted to see if I have a reaction.. But truth is I'm home and have my husband right next to me should something happen.. I rather know now then later. Now that I've seen it has to be a whole piece or plenty of sweets that should not be happening.. I don't have a sweet tooth. And I am staying away from sweets, processed foods and carbohydrates. I know it doesn't seem like it with my post. But that really was just a bite the size of a fingernail clipping. The foods I eat on a daily are by the guide I was given. But I'm surprised that my diet and introduction to foods is so sooner than most. As of Monday I should be eating for lunch (example given in my packet) 2oz of flaky light fish and 2 tablespoons of steamed mushy carrots. Yet others are still struggling to eat a scrambled egg 3 months out. How is that healthy for them? 

My surgeon allowed her patients to start soft foods on Day Three post op, so I had scrambled eggs that day before I even left the hospital (I had open RNY), was eating cheeses, yogurt, tuna and the like the first week, and I was eating some moist, baked buffalo chicken at 2 weeks out.  She found that patients did better when they did NOT have several weeks of "babying" their pouches right after surgery. Nothing I ate made me sick.  I didn't throw up until I was 18 months out and ate some rather dry chicken too fast.

just please try to stay away from testing the waters to see what will and won't make you sick.  In general, I think people are better off believing that sugar and fat WILL make them sick (and therefore avoiding foods high in those elements) rather than to know that they DON'T get sick and then having to use some other means to control their consumption f have items.  You will eventually be able to have occasional treats in small amounts.  Just don't risk sabotaging your success by eating even small amounts of have things now.  I know that it sounds cliche, but is really IS a slippery slope and many people find themselves in trouble quickly.

Lora

Hey Phoenixgyrl,

I had  RYN on July 16th, and have lost 73 lbs. Along the way, I've tried to pay particular attention to what is going on in my head and heart because I want to be free from the habits and thoughts that got me to the point of morbid obesity. With WLS  losing the weight is the easy part. Changing is the hard part.

'Feeling full' is definitely different now. I don't ever really feel hungry like I did before. I follow my surgeon's guidelines on when and what to eat, but I think the most important part, for me, is making sure to drink my water (or decaf/unswet tea). I make myself drink a bottle of water first thing in the morning, then wait 30 minutes before eating protein for breakfast. I do the same before lunch, in the afternoon before a protein snack, and before dinner. I am 4 months out, so I can get more water in than you can at this point. Drinking the water helps me 'feel' more full, helps my skin look healthier, and helps flush the toxins from my body.

Also, last month I started struggling with a strong desire to eat. I started obsessing about food again. I remembered reading something about 'head hunger', so I started searching the internet for anything I could find to help me identify and deal with it. Here's one of the sites that helped a lot...http://wlscounseling.com/after-weight-loss-surgery-head-hunger-or-stomach-hunger/. Just being aware of head hunger helps me fight it.

Reading lots of posts from OH has helped a lot, too. The people that are successful at losing all of the weight, and at keeping it off seem to have some things in common;

- they carefully follow a plan laid out by a surgeon and nutritionist.

-stay connected to other wls patients 

-drink liquids

-exercise

-make permanent life changes

I'm finding it's not as easy as I thought it would be to make real changes. I guess breaking a lifetime of bad habits takes a lot of time, energy, effort, and thought. But it is so worth it. I am almost at my halfway goal of losing 150 lbs. I already feel so much better physically. I've been training for a 5K (I'll be walking), and feel less limited by my body than I used to. 

I wish you well. Please make the effort to change what your doing. I think most of the people who have read your post are worried about you. Of course, I am new at this, but I don't think you will be happy with where you are in a year if you don't think about the choices you are making now.

~kia

Flippin' crazy.

But there seems to be a pattern of trying foods you aren't supposed to be eating right now.  You've tried a number of different things that are not on your food plan right now, right?

Why on earth on you sabotaging yourself and damaging your body this way????

At 3 weeks you should barely be past full liquids in very limited quantities, not testing the limits of your endurance and eating without thinking. With RNY you don't eat until you feel full---because your nerves have been cut and  might not have the sensation of fullness now or for a very, very long time----you eat carefully controlled portions.  Part of your experience now is likely to be "head hunger" not real hunger. 

If you really want to succeed with this surgery, you really need to get a handle on your behavior and choices, working with a therapist trained in weight loss and eating disorders, and also have sit down meetings with your surgeon and nutritionist to get a clear understanding and acceptance of what is appropriate for you at this stage and in the future.  

Your surgeon's idea of 3 meals a day and no snacks is not practical and not the accepted practice recommended by most surgeons or the ASMBS guidelines. At 3 weeks, a serving is more typically 1/4 cup. Once you have worked up to a more normalized eating pattern, your entire meal would typically only fill one cup. Some people can eat  a scrambled egg at 2 months, but certainly not a hard boiled egg (much less 2 at a time) and probably not for six months. Somehow you seem to have missed a great deal of the dietary information.  You might start with the guidelines at ASMBS.org and read the food and nutrition section of this forum and others for ideas.  Good luck. 

That's exactly what I was asking.. Am I suppose to have a full feeling or is it all portion control. I'm reading my nutrition packet and it says 10 days post op if should be on a bariatric soft protein diet. That includes light flaky fish, water packed tuna, beans, ground chicken and turkey, eggs a few other things. I was told to eat 3 meals a day and eat until I'm full or no longer hungry. I see others struggling to eat and feeling weak or dumping. I'm full of energy I haven't  had to vomit or struggle to eat or had any discomfort. I really do want to succeed with this surgery. And I can't explain why I tried the no-no foods just to see what would happen. Im truthfully not hungry all day. I would be just as satisfied with  a spoonful of tuna instead of a meal. Now knowing that hey the nerves are cut so I'm not going to feel full. I will defiantly ask my surgeon what's expected of a portion. Thanks

It took me a long time to feel 'fullness' after surgery, so I made sure to measure everything.  One thing I noticed early out, was that when I got close to finishing up my measured portion, my nose started to run!...odd, but, that was a clue to me to stop eating.   It was months before I dared to 'test' any foods that weren't specifically on my plan.