Warning: Your food label could be lying to you!

Cleopatra_Nik
on 8/20/12 8:57 am - Baltimore, MD
I said I wasn't going to comment on this but...

This wasn't a case of people being mean or attacking in my opinion. There was an assertion made that a company was willfully and dangerously lying about the content in their products and that they could cause serious harm.

I think I led the charge in saying IF YOU ARE GOING TO SAY THAT...back it up with actual information, not just your personal experience. While valid, your personal experience does NOT = this product is dangerous. Further follow-up is warranted. There aren't a lot of companies still that even care about WLSers as a market and alienating the ones that do with potentially libelous statements does not necessarily help that fact.

This, apparently, was mean. I think Hala and I are past that. I just now know not to use any of my  connections with bariatric companies to intermediate in such situations anymore. 

And all God's children are happy.

Those are the facts. 

RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!

(deactivated member)
on 8/20/12 9:16 am
I don't know about the issue you referred to involving Hala but your explanation makes sense. It makes sense for someone to have as many facts as possible in a given situation. Thanks for clarifying that.
Cleopatra_Nik
on 8/20/12 9:28 am - Baltimore, MD
 No problem. I just didn't want this to turn into a "people can be so mean!" sub-thread. I don't know what may or may not have happened on other threads, I can only speak for my part in that whole convo. 

So that is not to say that there wasn't any meanness. I just do not believe in my heart that said meanness happened here.

I hope Hala knows that she is a valued member of this board and that her experiences resonate with a lot of people here, me included. We are cool. And I hope that any thread wouldn't prevent her from openly sharing experiences in the future. 

RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!

(deactivated member)
on 8/20/12 9:35 am
I'm glad you and Hala are cool, and I am sure she knows her opinions are valuable based on your post and based on Lora's post below. I don't like it when my own threads are hijacked into sub-threads especially if there is a misinterpretation. I know it's easy for me to read meanness into others when it wasn't intended. It's useful to clear things up as you did.  Thanks Nik!
H.A.L.A B.
on 8/20/12 10:20 am
Nick, you and I are cool.  We had different opinions, we disagreed, but I hope we had it resolved between you and I. 

I however got some personal comments from people *****ally like you who got really nasty toward me,  some started in the public comments on the post and then some followed with PM.  

I realized that I got way involved in the issue and backed away. Block the really aggressive ones. One day - they will understand - and they will get it.  Karma is a ***** 
I still believed that the said company was dishonest - or at least careless - I was not the only one who had reaction to their products. 

To this day I have not got even a word of apology from them. Sure - they refunded money for the product that I did not use, but only after you got involved. and it was not a lot - considering. But I never got "sorry our product made you sick" ... but that would be admitting that there may be something wrong with them.

 And I do believe that if their product was tested independently - it would show what I was saying.  This product is going  to make some people really sick - like it did to me. 
But then my body is supper sensitive to carbs.   I learned a very valuable lesson.  "Don't trust commercial product". Now I test all food on me on empty pouch in the morning (the time when I am the most sensitive to sugar - carbs).

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

Lady Lithia
on 8/20/12 6:02 pm
I get my back up when someone comes on here (never Hala though, at least not in my memory) and says "NEVER EAT XYZ" and then the gist of their post is that THEY threw up so obviously EVERONE must follow that person's plan.

If that was true, then everyone on this forum needs to IMMEDIATELY stop drinking pure water, eating cooked fish, and drinking milk. THIS MINUTE. I react negatively to the prima-donnas that come on here (again, not Halaa, who I love!) who think their reality is everyone's reality.

I remember one person who logged in, and posted about 50 messages in about 10 minutes. There was NOTHING on the page but this person's personal thoughts on EVERY FLIPPING THING they ever ate or drank, and a personal analysis on each.

I still consume crystal light. Without it, I'd dry up into dust and drift away.

~Lady Lithia~ 200 lbs lost! 
March 9, 2011 - Coccygectomy!
I chased my dreams, and my dreams, they caught me!
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Cicerogirl, The PhD
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on 8/20/12 7:44 am - OH
Sorry that people criticized you for posting an experience with food.  If something makes you sick, or causes some kind of a reaction, then it is what it is and I don't see how other people can take issue with that.  It doesn't mean that food will cause everyone to have the same reaction, of course.  Perhaps they misinterpreted and thought you were trying to say whatever it was would make everyone react that way...?

Please don't stop posting your experiences.  They are valuable!

Lora

14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained

You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.

H.A.L.A B.
on 8/20/12 8:05 am
I was not the only one that had bad reaction from that. But I was very vocal about that... ... I felt that since that food made me sick - dumping and severe RH and weight gain - it is most likely to affect other people post op RNY. 
There are a lot of foods that I can't tolerate post op RNY - but a lot of they is just "mine issue".  It makes me mad when product is advertised as safe for post op RNY and it is not.

BTW: the other similar product - the no dairy so-Delicious ice deserts -  in some health food stores (like WF, or TJ) also have more sugar and carbs than on a label - as tested on me.  1 small serving raised my BS way too high and made me dump. 

Like this:
No Sugar Added Chocolate or Minis No Sugar Added Fudge Bars

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

Cicerogirl, The PhD
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on 8/20/12 7:41 am - OH
Well, you could look at it this way:  you are assuming that you now absorb 100% of the calories from the food you eat, but you probably really only absorb 80-90% since the body doesn't totally accommodate the bypass and since some of the fat will always be malabsorbed, so if your food is off by 20% and you malabsorb 20%, it all evens out.

 

Lora

14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained

You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.

H.A.L.A B.
on 8/20/12 7:44 am

yea... except that do not work for us with carbs or sugar. I feel that I absorb 120% of sugars nd carbs. Or more.. Now fat and proteins - that I malabsorb...

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

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