Concern about "when can I eat..." posts
I mean, hell, he got a PEDICURE!
Got a problem with it?
Don't forget that the next morning I woke up at the Butt Crack of Dawn and did 10 miles and destroyed that ladies work LOL
Got a problem with it?
Don't forget that the next morning I woke up at the Butt Crack of Dawn and did 10 miles and destroyed that ladies work LOL
Paul C.
First 5K 9/27/20 46:32 - 11 weeks post op (PR 28:55 8/15/11)
First 10K 7/04/2011 1:03 First 15K 9/18/2011 1:37
First Half Marathon 10/02/2011 2:27:44 (PR 2:24:35)
First Half Ironman 9/30/12 7:32:04
First 5K 9/27/20 46:32 - 11 weeks post op (PR 28:55 8/15/11)
First 10K 7/04/2011 1:03 First 15K 9/18/2011 1:37
First Half Marathon 10/02/2011 2:27:44 (PR 2:24:35)
First Half Ironman 9/30/12 7:32:04
The look on your face in that pic was PRICELESS.
Yes, you are a big, manly man Paul. We stand in awe of your testosterone.
There...better? LOL!
Yes, you are a big, manly man Paul. We stand in awe of your testosterone.
There...better? LOL!
RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!
Big? I have worked so hard to not be big!!!
Well in the Triathlon world they call me a Clysdale so I don't thing big is all that bad .I will even admit it was nice to have my feet and toes done right. Hell I spend as little time as possible touching my feet. I hope that lady got paid well for having to do them.
Paul C.
First 5K 9/27/20 46:32 - 11 weeks post op (PR 28:55 8/15/11)
First 10K 7/04/2011 1:03 First 15K 9/18/2011 1:37
First Half Marathon 10/02/2011 2:27:44 (PR 2:24:35)
First Half Ironman 9/30/12 7:32:04
First 5K 9/27/20 46:32 - 11 weeks post op (PR 28:55 8/15/11)
First 10K 7/04/2011 1:03 First 15K 9/18/2011 1:37
First Half Marathon 10/02/2011 2:27:44 (PR 2:24:35)
First Half Ironman 9/30/12 7:32:04
While I agree with this post, Lora, I'm going to play devil's advocate for a moment. I think people
(myself included) ask these questions because some people are told there are no "off limits"
foods.
I agree that it doesn't help change the mindset or what got us in trouble to begin with, but I
think that is why there are all of these questions related to this topic.
I know I posted the other day about bread, rice and pasta. I did so because my center told me
to incorporate them sparingly at 3-6 months post-op and I find that to be a big window. I don't
necessarily "miss" these items, but I also find it unrealistic that I will never eat a slice of bread
or noodle ever again.
I don't think I'm anxious to go back to old foods. I was just trying to get everyone's experiences.
I agree that probably the majority of these questions are leading to bad habits, but not all.
PS.....I love ALL of our Vets here. You guys are what keeps me coming back to this site daily!
(myself included) ask these questions because some people are told there are no "off limits"
foods.
I agree that it doesn't help change the mindset or what got us in trouble to begin with, but I
think that is why there are all of these questions related to this topic.
I know I posted the other day about bread, rice and pasta. I did so because my center told me
to incorporate them sparingly at 3-6 months post-op and I find that to be a big window. I don't
necessarily "miss" these items, but I also find it unrealistic that I will never eat a slice of bread
or noodle ever again.
I don't think I'm anxious to go back to old foods. I was just trying to get everyone's experiences.
I agree that probably the majority of these questions are leading to bad habits, but not all.
PS.....I love ALL of our Vets here. You guys are what keeps me coming back to this site daily!
Surgery: 5/9/12 HW: 302 SW: 287.6 CW: 158
Yeah but...even in the realm of nothing being off limits, we know what didn't work for us before. And we all know what our weaknesses are. The thing that is amazing to me about deprivation is that it brings our trigger foods to the surface FAST. That is to say those foods we find ourselves asking about early out are probably the ones we want to avoid the longest.
For me, I abstained for a LONG time. I'm glad I did. It broke the cycle. I told myself "I can't" (and my surgeon never said that, I said that to MYSELF) and I didn't. Now most of that stuff just isn't that big a deal.
But beyond that, us vets know what it's like on the other side of maintenance. When your body is healed, has figured out how to produce some of the hormones that encouraged poor eating in the first place and we have much larger appetites. This is the time when that neurotic abstention comes in handy. It's also where the story you tell yourself about your eating becomes important. If you don't have a standard by then, you can be in trouble!
Just random thoughts. But it concerns me because most of us need a total transformation with regards to food.
Or, in the words of my illustrious late grandmother:
"If you do what you always did, you're gonna get what you always got."
For me, I abstained for a LONG time. I'm glad I did. It broke the cycle. I told myself "I can't" (and my surgeon never said that, I said that to MYSELF) and I didn't. Now most of that stuff just isn't that big a deal.
But beyond that, us vets know what it's like on the other side of maintenance. When your body is healed, has figured out how to produce some of the hormones that encouraged poor eating in the first place and we have much larger appetites. This is the time when that neurotic abstention comes in handy. It's also where the story you tell yourself about your eating becomes important. If you don't have a standard by then, you can be in trouble!
Just random thoughts. But it concerns me because most of us need a total transformation with regards to food.
Or, in the words of my illustrious late grandmother:
"If you do what you always did, you're gonna get what you always got."
RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!
First, please know that your post was just one of many I read over the past week with the same kind of content, so this was not in any way directed at you specifically.
Second, as Nik said, it is really more an issue of mindset than what you or cannot eat and when. Rather than asking (us OR yourself) whether you are far enough out for it to be ok to have something without it causing distress, ask youself what the benefit is -- both immediate and long-term -- of incorporating that food back into your diet. In your case, for example, what is the benefit of adding rice or pasta back in. Yeah, it means that you can eat one more food so you get some additional variety. That's an advantage. That additional food, though, has MANY disadvantages:
1) it has relatively little taste on it's own (and you can already eat all or most of the things that normally go with the pasta without eating the actual noodles... although that's hard with mac & cheese)
2) it has almost no nutritional value... even if it is whole wheat pasta
3) it takes up a lot of space in your pouch that you need for protein and can better use for healthier carbs like fruits, veggies, and whole grains
4) it is the type of carbohydrate that generally makes people crave even more carbs
5) it doesn't positively contribute to your effort to overhaul the way you eat so that you will be able to maximize your weight loss and maintain the weight loss down the road.
That is a lot of negatives for one positive. The new mindset is about choosing foods because they are healthy, positive choices, not just because they won't make you sick and you are now "allowed" to have them.
Lora
Second, as Nik said, it is really more an issue of mindset than what you or cannot eat and when. Rather than asking (us OR yourself) whether you are far enough out for it to be ok to have something without it causing distress, ask youself what the benefit is -- both immediate and long-term -- of incorporating that food back into your diet. In your case, for example, what is the benefit of adding rice or pasta back in. Yeah, it means that you can eat one more food so you get some additional variety. That's an advantage. That additional food, though, has MANY disadvantages:
1) it has relatively little taste on it's own (and you can already eat all or most of the things that normally go with the pasta without eating the actual noodles... although that's hard with mac & cheese)
2) it has almost no nutritional value... even if it is whole wheat pasta
3) it takes up a lot of space in your pouch that you need for protein and can better use for healthier carbs like fruits, veggies, and whole grains
4) it is the type of carbohydrate that generally makes people crave even more carbs
5) it doesn't positively contribute to your effort to overhaul the way you eat so that you will be able to maximize your weight loss and maintain the weight loss down the road.
That is a lot of negatives for one positive. The new mindset is about choosing foods because they are healthy, positive choices, not just because they won't make you sick and you are now "allowed" to have them.
Lora
14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained
You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.
Ina Garten has a kick-ass (looking) baked cheese.
Probably not a good idea also but I'm just sayin...
Probably not a good idea also but I'm just sayin...
RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!
I love/loved Martha Stewart's Chow Chows... but I cannot stand her.. and I cannot even put my finger on why. There is just something about her demeanor that rubs me the wrong way. I kind of like Ina, though. Just once, though, I would like to hear her break that soft, low key, almost put you to sleep tone of voice!
Lora
Lora
14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained
You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.
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