Concern about "when can I eat..." posts
RNY on 03/13/12
I had a "WTF do I know?" post about that bleeping pouch test crap at the weekend and guess what? Silence!
Just stop eating crappy carbs, people!!!!
I don't understand why ANYONE would go through this surgery, altering themselves for life, and go back to the binge/diet/binge/diet mentality within a year ... SMDH!
I could formulate a list of the people on here that are going to be back in a year or two lamenting their regain ...
Just stop eating crappy carbs, people!!!!
I don't understand why ANYONE would go through this surgery, altering themselves for life, and go back to the binge/diet/binge/diet mentality within a year ... SMDH!
I could formulate a list of the people on here that are going to be back in a year or two lamenting their regain ...
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Oh, I hear ya! There are a few I've tried to assist, but I just had to walk away. The next stop is the failed surgery board....and the crying about "why this didn't work for me".
I can only hope we've helped a few of our newbies over the years....it makes it worthwhile. Plus, I always like to see how my trusted vets weigh in (pun intended) on all the subjects!
I can only hope we've helped a few of our newbies over the years....it makes it worthwhile. Plus, I always like to see how my trusted vets weigh in (pun intended) on all the subjects!
Never apologize for asking questions. Questions -- even if they've been answered before -- help people a lot. Obviously, I wouldn't suggest that ten people all post "Can I have sugar snap peas" in a row in separate posts... I sometimes shrug my shoulders when I see three or four nearly identical subject lines.... that's annoying, I admit it.
But after a quick perusal of the first page of posts, or several pages, you don't see something similar, even if you could find ten thousand similar posts via the search engine, it doesn't hurt to post a question you havee.... because several things happen....
Likely if you have a question, at least another half dozen or more have the same question but don't have the courage to ask.... so they'll benefit from it and from the responses to it, and of course there comes a time when you'll feel more expert on the subject...and when you see the question asked six months from now, you're likely to give back all you got from this site by helping the new newbies.
It's a lovely sharing circle that happens. We come here, we read, we ask questions, we learn, we grow (or shrink as the case might be) and then we start answering questions and helping... this helps us to reinforce what we have learned and strengthen others.
Never feel bad for a question asked. It helps everyone. As a teacher, I applaud when I have one or two students who always ask questions. The shy students don't or won't ask, but they do LEARN from the question and answer sessions.
But after a quick perusal of the first page of posts, or several pages, you don't see something similar, even if you could find ten thousand similar posts via the search engine, it doesn't hurt to post a question you havee.... because several things happen....
Likely if you have a question, at least another half dozen or more have the same question but don't have the courage to ask.... so they'll benefit from it and from the responses to it, and of course there comes a time when you'll feel more expert on the subject...and when you see the question asked six months from now, you're likely to give back all you got from this site by helping the new newbies.
It's a lovely sharing circle that happens. We come here, we read, we ask questions, we learn, we grow (or shrink as the case might be) and then we start answering questions and helping... this helps us to reinforce what we have learned and strengthen others.
Never feel bad for a question asked. It helps everyone. As a teacher, I applaud when I have one or two students who always ask questions. The shy students don't or won't ask, but they do LEARN from the question and answer sessions.
~Lady Lithia~ 200 lbs lost!
March 9, 2011 - Coccygectomy!
I chased my dreams, and my dreams, they caught me!
Brit-thanks for your honesty. I'm finding now after 3 years, it is MUCH easier to regain a few lbs than it ever was.....and I'm more hungry AND I can eat more. I am so thankful that I did change early on, because honestly, I don't know if I'd have the willpower to change now fighting the hunger and the ability to eat more. I just regained 3 lbs in the blink of an eye by slowing down on the cardio and eating more dessert. Literally in 2 weeks time, up 3 lbs. Doesn't seem like much to some, but it makes a difference in how I feel and how the jeans fit!! I'm on "lockdown" now!! Journaling food and uppping the cardio!
We don't say these things to hear ourselves talk (type??!!!) We are trying to pay it forward....listen up all you grasshoppers!!!
We don't say these things to hear ourselves talk (type??!!!) We are trying to pay it forward....listen up all you grasshoppers!!!
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on 7/23/12 12:38 am, edited 7/23/12 12:39 am
on 7/23/12 12:38 am, edited 7/23/12 12:39 am
RNY on 04/18/12
This was a great post. I am a newbie who agrees with you 100%. I didn't have body- and physiology-alertering surgery just so I could go back to eating the foods I used to in the way I used to.
I find it almost frightening that people who have had this surgery would have that mindset, and it makes me wonder what kind of support their surgeons have provided. My surgeon and his team were very clear, from the very first time I met them, that this surgery is not a quick fix. It is a life-changing event. People who are not mentally prepared to change should not have this surgery. My surgeon and his team went over the plan several times before my surgery date. He and his team provided a binder that explained what could be eaten at what stage, what the recommended limits for fats and sugar are, why they recommended no carbonated beverages and no caffeine, etc. They went through this binder several times and made sure I was ready before I ever went under the knife. Which is not to say it's all on the surgeon and his team. I did tons of research, also, to make sure I was really ready. I watched videos of the surgery, I read as much as I could about RNY living with it, both short term and long term, and I also came to this forum to get advice. I don't always follow the advice I've seen here, because sometimes it sets my bull**** meter off, especially when I see things like, "Oh, I did that at X weeks, and I was fine." Which makes me reiterate, FOLLOW YOUR SURGEON'S PLAN! And if he or she doesn't have a plan, you probably should get different medical counsel! (The vets here give excellent advice, by the way. I hope you can tell that the example I gave doesn't illustrate advice given by any of the forum's veterans.)
In a couple of years I may decide that once in a while I can have a little bit of ice cream or a small piece of cake for a special occasion, but I'm not even going there now. Nor do I want to. I'm happy doing what I'm doing and for the first time in a very long time, I'm not focused on food.
I find it almost frightening that people who have had this surgery would have that mindset, and it makes me wonder what kind of support their surgeons have provided. My surgeon and his team were very clear, from the very first time I met them, that this surgery is not a quick fix. It is a life-changing event. People who are not mentally prepared to change should not have this surgery. My surgeon and his team went over the plan several times before my surgery date. He and his team provided a binder that explained what could be eaten at what stage, what the recommended limits for fats and sugar are, why they recommended no carbonated beverages and no caffeine, etc. They went through this binder several times and made sure I was ready before I ever went under the knife. Which is not to say it's all on the surgeon and his team. I did tons of research, also, to make sure I was really ready. I watched videos of the surgery, I read as much as I could about RNY living with it, both short term and long term, and I also came to this forum to get advice. I don't always follow the advice I've seen here, because sometimes it sets my bull**** meter off, especially when I see things like, "Oh, I did that at X weeks, and I was fine." Which makes me reiterate, FOLLOW YOUR SURGEON'S PLAN! And if he or she doesn't have a plan, you probably should get different medical counsel! (The vets here give excellent advice, by the way. I hope you can tell that the example I gave doesn't illustrate advice given by any of the forum's veterans.)
In a couple of years I may decide that once in a while I can have a little bit of ice cream or a small piece of cake for a special occasion, but I'm not even going there now. Nor do I want to. I'm happy doing what I'm doing and for the first time in a very long time, I'm not focused on food.
Hi all! I guess I am just too much of a pollyanna here but if you are not going to follow your surgeon's protocol after surgery, then why have the surgery? If your surgeon does not provide this to you then, personally, I think you should question your choice. The surgeon I am seeing and his team are PHENOMENAL! They are so very supportive and understand that making this choice is not an easy fix.
I'm two months out from surgery and I have already given up most of my demon foods ... some because of my diabetes and some because it just needed to be done.
I hope that this is not seen as presumptive since I am new to all this, but I appreciate your points of view and agree.
I'm two months out from surgery and I have already given up most of my demon foods ... some because of my diabetes and some because it just needed to be done.
I hope that this is not seen as presumptive since I am new to all this, but I appreciate your points of view and agree.
Getting in the right mindset is so important BEFORE ever having the surgery. It's the reason why it took me over a year of resear*****luding lurking on boards like this to decide to even make a consult appointment. Understanding ahead of time about malabsorption vs restriction, etc., let me know what I would need to do to be successful in the long run. That said, as a newbie, I can relate to wanting to know how, if, when, I will be able to enjoy some of my favorite not so healthy things ever again for the rest of my life. I know that I won't ever be able to eat 4 slices of pizza in one sitting ever again, and I don't want to. But I am interested to know when I can have a half a slice without causing harm to my pouch. (I refer to my lovely binder I was given in class for questions like this). I will never be a I'll never eat this, this, this, ever again type of person. Moderation is the key for me.
I definitely understand (and remember) being early out, missing certain foods, being bored with the limited high protein foods I was eating the first couple of months, and wondering what life (in terms of eating ) will really be like down the road. I also remember having "just one bite" of a couple of things during the first few months because I really wanted to taste it (and I gave in to temptations occasionally). It just seems that lately people who are only 2 or 3 months out are asking "when can I have..." with the clear expectation that they want" permission" to have it NOW.
Lora
Lora
14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained
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