Poll (sorta): Self destruction

Cleopatra_Nik
on 6/26/12 12:43 am, edited 6/26/12 12:44 am - Baltimore, MD

One thing I've noticed in this process is that one person's self-destructive behavior is another person's self-preservation.

So I'm curious to know what behaviors YOU think are self-destructive post-op? When have we crossed over the line from being disciplined into harming ourselves? And what behaviors of indulgence (which could also be deemed "moderation") do you consider self destructive? It can be related to any aspect of post-op life (eating, lifestyle, exercise, relationships, etc.).

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Dagne Tripplehorn
on 6/26/12 1:26 am - OR

RNY on 04/06/12

That's a thinker.

I've got the all or nothing mentality, which is self-destructive.

I'm learning to believe that life is a process, behaviors are practice not the final answer, and the goal is improvement not perfection. That's self-improving.

Then I cut myself a whole lot of slack and kind of change the definition of "practice" and "baby steps" to not trying at all. That's self-destructive.

I beat myself up for being a slacker, a loser (and not in a good way), and not at all America's Next Ninja Warrior. Realistic, but self-destructive.

Repeat cycle.

It's a hamster cage. Or maybe there is forward movement, and that's just how I roll.

fatfreemama
on 6/26/12 1:27 am - San Jose, CA

RNY on 12/07/09

I wouldn't say self distructive so much as self sabotage. I'm still dealing with mindless eating, especially in the evenings after dinner. Old habits come back and I know I'm sabotaging myself, and dealing with the regain. So I'm going to try taking it one day at a time.

Cleopatra_Nik
on 6/26/12 1:34 am - Baltimore, MD

RNY on 01/08/08

Now, see..even there there's room for debate.

A former frequent poster Shari (of "we can do hard things" and buffalo chicken dip fame), did a sort of PLANNED grazing plan. She bugeted a bunch of teeny-weeny meals throughout the day. Technically whether you plan them or not, eating like that is grazing. But she kept it under control and lost the weight and is maintaining (albeit with some health issues).

But I agree. If for YOU this is self destructive, you have to take steps and it sounds like you are!

RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!

fatfreemama
on 6/26/12 3:21 am - San Jose, CA

RNY on 12/07/09

I miss Shari. I still use her "we can do hard things" mantra, especially when I'm training for a half and have a very long training session.

I've tried "planned" grazing, but it does NOT work for me. Once I start, I have a lot of trouble stopping. Now I do plan a frozen yogurt treat on weekends, but I try to keep very rigid during the week and loosen up on weekends. It was working great until I started having surgeries (hernia and plastics last Sept, gallbladder/hernia/adhesions last month), and it's taken me a long time to recover and get back to regular exercise and feeling like myself. And all that time at home and giving myself some slack let the old habits back in that I worked so hard the first two years to abolish. That plus perimenopause taking hold and I'm up 20 pounds, mostly do to grazing. So it's a daily struggle and I'm still not there, but I know what the vice is. Sometimes, it gets so depressing to be refighting the same old battles, but I have not lost the war yet.

exohexoh
on 6/26/12 5:37 am - West Chester, PA

RNY on 09/27/10

planned grazing works for me. but only on days where i am home all day, make everything in the morning and just grab and go. when i was writing my papers i would do this. put the servings in a little cup, like some crackers, cheese, and grape tomatoes and then when it was time to eat i would just grab one and munch while i wrote. i was eating every 4 hours and it kept me eating good things instead of just grabbing some junk to eat. i could do this every day i just don't have the patience for it. maybe i should try and get back to it since i did drop some poundage when i ate that way....

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(deactivated member)
on 6/26/12 1:29 am - Bay City, MI

I feel like I cross the line when I eat the tuna at Subway. I eat it on a salad, no dressing. It has real Mayo.

Did I answer this right?

Cleopatra_Nik
on 6/26/12 1:37 am - Baltimore, MD

RNY on 01/08/08

There is no right or wrong way to answer!

My original thought was of the bigger picture. For you that might mean that you are debating whether full-fat things should stay in your plan and at what rate? Someone who is gung-ho about eating a reduced fat or overall reduced calorie diet might think that self-destructive.

But I will share one experience that is semi-related. I used to be pretty darn neurotic about knowing the exact caloric content of my food. So I wouldn't do things like tuna salad from a restaurant because I didn't know EXACTLY how much of each ingredient was in there and that drove me batty.

This was, of course, me being a control freak. And in my world that can be both in the "self destruction" AND "self preservation" columns.

RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!

LJ1972
on 6/26/12 1:43 am - FL

RNY on 08/16/11

THIS is me. It drives my dietitian crazy that I am so completely OCD about calories. If i can't find the nutritional information online I won't order it. I'll get something plain and predictable. I hate eating at friend's houses because I don't know what BRAND they use so I can put it in myfitnesspal.

I'm getting better at it, but it is a monster obstacle for me.

I also tend towards self-sabotage in the evenings because I am so strict on calories throughout the day.

                 COURAGE TO START, STRENGTH TO ENDURE, RESOLVE TO FINISH
                             HW 353 SW 317 Original GW 180  Current Wt 170
                               First 5k 59:18; 5k PR 32:06; 1st 10k 1:20:27; PR 1:08:36
                                                    1st Half Marathon 2:48

Pensacola Double Bridge Run 15k- 1:47:34
Three Sprint Triathlons

Cleopatra_Nik
on 6/26/12 1:47 am - Baltimore, MD

RNY on 01/08/08

I'm still fairly rigid about the being able to have stats on my food thing. That's why there are only certain things I'll eat out. And before anything goes in my mouth it gets "the 360" (complete review of food packaging).

It drives me batty to have to guesstimate.

RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!

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