Let he who is without blemish cast the first stone

poet_kelly
on 3/8/12 3:13 am - OH
No, I didn't have my stuff 100% together at six days post op.  Of course I didn't.  I was not getting enough protein, not enough liquids... I was struggling.  I also did not want to hear people telling me I would feel better if I just drank those protein shakes because I did not want to drink them.  They tasted bad to me and I wanted to hear that it was OK if I didn't drink them.  Nobody told me that, though.  I did not block people that told me I needed to drink my protein anyway (I was not on OH back then, I was on another forum).  But it was not the response I hoped to get.

I do think most people probably have their stuff together more than the poster you're referring to, though.  I don't think many of us were eating 1600 calories, two cups of food at a time, and smoking, and drinking six days post op.  I also don't think many of us were saying our surgeon gave us no post op guidelines when the guidelines are posted right on his website and posting that we had no nutritionist when we'd already written in our blog that we did have a nutritionist.

Yeah, I get that some of us struggle more than others.  But if someone is completely unwilling to even read their surgeon's guidelines or speak to their nutritionist, I think that is a person that is determined to do what they want to do regardless of the consequences.

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Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR.  If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor.  Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me.  If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her.    Check out my blog.

 

Cleopatra_Nik
on 3/8/12 3:16 am - Baltimore, MD
Oh that can most certainly be the case. I agree. And i don't mean to make a person seem like a victim. But we are most vulnerable in that time. And like I said, if I found out my tool wasn't working the way I thought it should, I would have been extremely vulnerable to those same types of choices...and my addiction would have told me that I didn't need a doctor or guidelines. 

It's a powerful thing, addiction. Not sure if the OP is a food addict or not. But I know for this food addict, I could probably have done physical damage if I found I could eat a lot post op and I would not have sought out help. Sad, but true. I hated myself that much.

RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!

Cicerogirl, The PhD
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on 3/8/12 3:52 am - OH
 I understand your concern, but this is a person who was not following ANY of the rules.  No, none of us have it all together at 8 days out, but i have also never seem someone disregard every rule there is, and that is what I (and I think several others) reponded based on.  

Then it got more ludicrous as more information came out... claiming to have one of the best surgeons in her area but not getting ANY nutritional info from her surgeon (when a 5 min Google search produced an extremely detailed eating guideline on her surgeon's web page... I find it extremely hard to believe that a surgeon who posts such detailed info on his web page does not give it to his patients or point them to the web page!)... claiming that her husband is a physician and she is in the medical field but yet knowing NONE of the post-op guidelines (even after, as we later discovered, having had a band)... then calling people *****ponded narrow minded and BIGOTED because she did not like the responses... and then we find out she is a revision from a band who admitted in her own blog that she was not following the band rules, either.

Vulnerable and/or addicted is one thing. This, IMO, was entirely different, and her response today after she blocked everyone -- indicating that her surgeon says all those things are ok -- does nothing to change my mind (although I do believe that she may have been having a panic attack... Or something... Because those posts were NOT the same in coherence as her other posts here).

Lora


14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained

You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.

Cleopatra_Nik
on 3/8/12 3:57 am - Baltimore, MD
 Yes, I think I might have just had a strong reaction. 

I still think some of us could stand to do a little self reflection on how we react to people (cuz even before her defiant replies I saw some posts that raised my eyebrows), but you're right in that there is a difference between vulnerability and ignorance. 

RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!

LJ1972
on 3/8/12 7:23 am - FL
I had to do a little self evaluation after I posted in that thread... and about 20minutes later I went back and removed what I wrote.  I do better with the "you can do it" replies... I can take the hard replies coming to me, but I don't do so good passing them out, know what I mean?  :)
H.A.L.A B.
on 3/8/12 5:37 am
Lets not forget drinking wine 7 days post op.  Drinking alcohol 7 days after any major surgery is crazy.  I smell a troll...

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

Paul C.
on 3/8/12 5:41 am - Cumming, GA
 that isn't a troll you smell....

It is the Chili I had for lunch! 
Paul C.
First 5K 9/27/20 46:32 - 11 weeks post op  (PR 28:55 8/15/11)
First 10K 7/04/2011 1:03      
      First 15K 9/18/2011 1:37
First Half Marathon 10/02/2011 2:27:44 (
PR 2:24:35)   
First Half Ironman 9/30/12 7:32:04
H.A.L.A B.
on 3/8/12 6:32 am

lol... My office was not safe for other to enter today. I need a sign.   My assistant is a great person and I hate "fuming her"

fiber.. and no BM... smells disaster...

Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG

"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"

"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."

seattledeb
on 3/8/12 3:15 am
 I really didn't see that. I saw some real concern about someone who can eat 1600 calories in one day that soon post op. She is in a dangerous place right now with potentially lethal consequences.
Those people stick around in my head. Like the KFC chicken bowl person.  I wonder..did they make it? Not did they lose the weight..but did they survive?? It's lethal and scary.
Deb T.

    

Cleopatra_Nik
on 3/8/12 3:17 am - Baltimore, MD
 I saw one person say she doubted her surgeon's professionalism for going forward with a surgery on a person who clearly isn't ready.

Really?

Cuz I don't know that I was any more ready than her. I was just lucky enough to be a hot mess after surgery. But look what came out of my surgeon moving forward with MY surgery. I mean I ain't Jesus but I like to think I am some help around here...

RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!

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