Let he who is without blemish cast the first stone

Cleopatra_Nik
on 3/8/12 2:53 am - Baltimore, MD
Flame me if you want, I am sort of perturbed.


I read the “I can eat anything thread."

Please raise your hand if you had your shizz together right away after surgery?

“But Nik, I didn’t eat 1600 calories!!!"

Is that because you didn’t want to or because you COULDN’T? For some of you the former is true. For me, I can say it was the latter. If I found I COULD eat a bunch of food right after surgery (and I wasn’t nauseous or uncomfortable), I probably would. I thank the good Lord every day I did have severe restriction. Cuz my brain just doesn’t process shouldn’t (as in “you shouldn’t eat that or you shouldn’t eat that much…"), even four years post-op. I understand CAN’T.

So before we accuse someone of not being committed to their process, think about this. I’m willing to bet my measly paycheck that we ALL lean on the effects of our surgery, in some way, shape or form, to force behavior modification. But if you found that your surgery didn’t strongarm you into better behavior BEFORE you’d had a chance to work on the head demons, could you honestly say you are immune to doing something monumentally counterproductive?

If you are immune...good for you. For the rest of us...sometimes we just need to be pointed in the right direction. But I didn't like some of the posts I saw (not all) that quickly turned into a band wagon of self-righteousness.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But that surprised me a lot. 

RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!

Paul C.
on 3/8/12 2:55 am - Cumming, GA
 Dang and I thought you were gonna tell us a good way to throw rocks!
Paul C.
First 5K 9/27/20 46:32 - 11 weeks post op  (PR 28:55 8/15/11)
First 10K 7/04/2011 1:03      
      First 15K 9/18/2011 1:37
First Half Marathon 10/02/2011 2:27:44 (
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First Half Ironman 9/30/12 7:32:04
Cleopatra_Nik
on 3/8/12 2:56 am - Baltimore, MD
 What you have to do is lean back a little and put your back into it!!!

For real though. Some folks gave good advice. Others...were WHACK!

RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!

Chilipepper
on 3/8/12 3:26 am

 

"The first thing I do in the morning is brush my teeth and sharpen my tongue." --- Dorothy Parker  

"You may not like what I say or how I say it, but it may be just exactly what you need to hear." ---Kathryn White

 

 

mirlyn2012
on 3/8/12 3:09 am - FL
RNY on 02/20/12
I didn't post last night but today's post made me think she was a lying troll. *shrug*
      .oOo.oOo.oOo.oOo.Miranda.oOo.oOo.oOo.oOo.      
Cleopatra_Nik
on 3/8/12 3:13 am - Baltimore, MD
 It's not so much her that bugged me but our response to her. Sometimes it takes someone trolling to show you what YOU are really about. (General you, not "you" you)

I'm not perfect. I certainly wasn't right after surgery. And I am a food addict. So if I could cheat after surgery I probably would have. Thankfully I got the whole nine: dumping, severe restriction, nausea, pain, etc.

I am thankful for that because it forced me to have to think about food in a new way.

While everyone isn't like me, I know we all depend on this surgery in some way to help us change ourselves. Otherwise, what's the point. But MY point is that it takes time. It's a process. If a person is in a stage of their process where we can't reasonably expect them to make great decisions on their own laurels, I don't see how it is helpful of us to accuse them of not being ready for the changes of this lifestyle. 

I can be ready to change without having changed yet. And conversely if I find the tools I thought I had for change did not work...I am not immune to relapse. It's a reality. 

RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!

mirlyn2012
on 3/8/12 3:17 am - FL
RNY on 02/20/12
Yeah I definitely didn't say anything about her eating because if I could I would probably be nibbling on all this junk my dad keeps buying. But to say your surgeon ok'd wine and cigs a week out? I call bogus. That's asking for a malpractice suit.
      .oOo.oOo.oOo.oOo.Miranda.oOo.oOo.oOo.oOo.      
Citizen Kim
on 3/8/12 3:19 am, edited 3/8/12 3:19 am - Castle Rock, CO
I think she got some excellent calm advice and only suffered a pile on when she started calling people bigoted among other things! Bloody hell, even Chili was nice to her!!!!!!

This is a public forum with many varied personalities - some people have a warm and fuzzy hand holding style, others have a more tell it like it is style. I dont think one way is right and one is wrong but I do think it is wrong to pat her hand and tell her that her choices were right or that she would be ok if she carried on as she was.

If you put yourself out there on a public forum on the internet you have to be prepared to hear ALL the opinions - unless you want to put some sort of caveat at the end "only people that agree with me need reply" or some such!

Proud Feminist, Atheist, LGBT friend, and Democratic Socialist

Chilipepper
on 3/8/12 3:29 am
I love you girl!!

 

"The first thing I do in the morning is brush my teeth and sharpen my tongue." --- Dorothy Parker  

"You may not like what I say or how I say it, but it may be just exactly what you need to hear." ---Kathryn White

 

 

Citizen Kim
on 3/8/12 3:41 am, edited 3/8/12 3:43 am - Castle Rock, CO


I know people don't always "get" you on here - if only they knew the warm and fuzzy Chili I know (but I don't want to **** on your rep LOL)

Proud Feminist, Atheist, LGBT friend, and Democratic Socialist

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