poll re: dumping

poet_kelly
on 1/28/12 9:33 pm - OH
1.  Do you dump (I'm not gonna try to define dumping for you, other than to say I don't just mean does your tummy get a bit queazy if you eat certain things)?

2.  Have you dumped just a few times, or does it happen often?

3.  Do you dump on sugar?  Fat?  Something else?

4.  Do you know what makes you dump, or are you surprised when it happens?

5.  Are you able to prevent dumping by watching what you eat?

6.  Do you ever eat things that you  know might cause dumping?  Like, is it too hard to resist that brownie even though you know it will probably make you sick?

7.  If you do dump, how did you find out that you dump?  Like, did you accidentally eat something you thought was sugar free only to find out it wasn't, or did you test yourself on purpose?

8.  If you don't dump, do you wish you did?  If you do dump, do you wish you didn't?

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poet_kelly
on 1/28/12 9:39 pm - OH
My answers:

1.  Yeah, I dump.

2.  Just a few times.

3.  Sugar, mostly.  Once I did dump on fat, but that was pretty early out.

4.  I know what makes me dump (mostly) and try to avoid those things, but I have been surprised when it happened.  Like, once I dumped on a dish of fruit but I can usually eat fruit with no problem.  So that surprised me.

5.  Mostly.

6.  I eat sugary things sometimes, but only in small amounts.  Low enough that I don't think it will me dump.  I don't think anything tastes so good it's worth dumping over!

7.  I found out when I ate a very small sliver of pie when I was pretty early out.  I assumed it would not have enough sugar to make me dump but obviously I was wrong.  And I had not bothered to calculate just how much sugar was in the small piece I ate.  Which I would never do now, I read labels and figure out how much sugar is in everything I eat.  Some things have an incredible amount of sugar in just a small amount.

8.  Mostly I'm glad I do dump, because it gives me a strong incentive to avoid sugary foods.  Occasionally I wish I could really indulge in something, though, like Ben and Jerry's ice cream.  I don't find just a couple bites of ice cream to be very satisfying.

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Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR.  If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor.  Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me.  If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her.    Check out my blog.

 

Cicerogirl, The PhD
Version

on 1/28/12 10:03 pm - OH
1.  Yes, but it takes a lot of sugar to make it happen... so, for practical daily purposes, NO.

2.  3 major episodes, all in the first 18 months post-op, then just a couple of minor ones since then 

3. Technically, the reaction to fat isn't really "dumping", but I am more sensitive to fat content than sugar content.  Too much fat leads to diarrhea and cramping even at 4.5 years out.  So does too many sugar alcohols.

4. The only things that I have really dumped on have been things obviously high in sugar (e.g., pumpkin pie filling), but early out there were some surprising items that made me shaky (tomato soup, SF chocolate pudding),  none of which bother me now.

5. Yes

6. Yes, but I eat small enough amounts that it will not cause a reaction

7. I ate some pie filling on purpose, but not SEE if I would dump

8.  Yes, I wish I dumped  

14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained

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Diminishing Dawn
on 1/28/12 10:18 pm - Windsor, Canada
 1.  Do you dump (I'm not gonna try to define dumping for you, other than to say I don't just mean does your tummy get a bit queazy if you eat certain things)?

No I don't dump regularly.

2.  Have you dumped just a few times, or does it happen often?

Only early out, a handful of times.

3.  Do you dump on sugar?  Fat?  Something else?

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4.  Do you know what makes you dump, or are you surprised when it happens?
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5.  Are you able to prevent dumping by watching what you eat?
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6.  Do you ever eat things that you  know might cause dumping?  Like, is it too hard to resist that brownie even though you know it will probably make you sick?
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7.  If you do dump, how did you find out that you dump?  Like, did you accidentally eat something you thought was sugar free only to find out it wasn't, or did you test yourself on purpose?
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8.  If you don't dump, do you wish you did?  If you do dump, do you wish you didn't?

Yes I begged for dumping!
 LOL

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MultiMom
on 1/28/12 10:25 pm - NH
 1. I dunno...... My nut gave me a fact sheet that says that reactive hypoglycemia is dumping. So, if that is true than the answer is yes. I will go forward answering about the RH.

2. Not often anymore. Sometimes I get very low sugar after eating something that didn't do that the day before.

3. Carbs....I stay far away from sugary things which is easy because I don't have a "sweet tooth". Fats do not bother me.

4. Sometimes I am surprised, sometimes not.

5. Mostly yes.

6. No

7. A sliver of carrot cake at Christmas last year was the first sweet that I had, and I crashed to a blood sugar reading of 32!! I crash on pasta, potatoes, rice, bread.......ugh!

8. I wish I didn't. RH SUCKS!!!

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Height 5'4.5" BMI 18.4
In maintenance since June 2009

Diminishing Dawn
on 1/28/12 11:35 pm - Windsor, Canada
Good point as I do have RH but did not include it...

To me, early stage and later stage dumping are a bit different.  Dumping early is something that is not preventable whereas later stage, I can totally avoid if I plan accordingly...so as a deterrent for not eating sugar, RH is not as much of a deterrent - it can be counteracted.

So now I'm confused as to what Kelly wants info on - both types..?

Dawn

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poet_kelly
on 1/28/12 11:57 pm - OH
I was asking about dumping syndrome, not RH.  I guess early dumping, in particular.  But I do not think dumping and RH are the same things, are they?

View more of my photos at ObesityHelp.com          Kelly

Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR.  If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor.  Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me.  If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her.    Check out my blog.

 

poet_kelly
on 1/29/12 12:03 am - OH
OK, I googled.  According to the Mayo Clinic, dumping and RH are not the same thing.

View more of my photos at ObesityHelp.com          Kelly

Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR.  If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor.  Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me.  If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her.    Check out my blog.

 

poet_kelly
on 1/29/12 12:01 am - OH
According to the Mayo Clinic, dumping syndrome and RH are two different things.  Some of the symptoms are similar, like lightheadedness, shakiness, and dizziness.  However, dumping syndome often causes stomach pain, nausea, vomiting and/or diarrhea as well, which RH usually does not cause.

I do have RH and I have dumped and they feel different to me.  I've never checked my blood sugar when I dumped, so I don't know if my sugar gets low then or not.  But when I have an RH episode, I always know before I check it that my sugar is going to be low.  I can tell by how I feel.  And I do not feel the same way when I've dumped.

View more of my photos at ObesityHelp.com          Kelly

Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR.  If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor.  Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me.  If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her.    Check out my blog.

 

MultiMom
on 1/29/12 1:45 am - NH
 I copied and pasted below from an article on Medscape  HERE  (http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/173594-overview#a0104) in case I didn't link it correctly. I never dumped in the first 2 1/2 years, but the RH is making up for it 

 
Late dumping

Late dumping occurs 1-3 hours after a meal. The pathogenesis is thought to be related to the early development of hyperinsulinemic (reactive) hypoglycemia. Rapid delivery of a meal to the small intestine results in an initial high concentration of carbohydrates in the proximal small bowel and rapid absorption of glucose. This is countered by a hyperinsulinemic response. The high insulin levels are responsible for the subsequent hypoglycemia. Intrajejunal glucose induces a higher insulin release than does the intravenous infusion of glucose. The serum glucose levels were the same in both experiments. This effect of enhanced insulin release after an enteral glucose load as compared to intravenous glucose administration is called the incretin effect.

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