Debate topic: Does having RNY actually make it HARDER to lose weight down the line?
It seems to me that after a certain point (# of years post-op), those non-ops kick our asses in weight loss. Even in instances where said non-op is a similar size to a post-op starting out.
This leads me to wonder: is there something about OUR process or what our bodies have been through that might make it more difficult (metabolically) to lose weight through traditional means?
I haven't paid that much attention to myself but I do know I see to have a 7 lb. limit. My body will drop 7 lbs. These days no matter how much I KILL myself at the gym, no more than that 7 lbs will come off. And if I stop, the 7 lbs. comes back.
I don't want to open the door to any excuses for not being able to lose weight. I just wonder if the decks are in any way stacked against us in that regard.
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I often read people saying that it takes 3500 calories to put on a lb of fat and I think ABSOLUTE RUBBISH in my case. I am more than capable of putting on 3-5lbs in a week if I really put my mind to it !!!
Having said that, I know I can drop weight if I put my mind to it - I have lost 20lbs of regain since August by sticking STRICTLY to my chosen lifestyle - I checked the carbs, upped the exercise and voila! Now bear in mind that it has taken about 20 weeks - so not exactly fallen off but, hey, I'll take it!
I feel very strongly about trying to preserve or up our metabolism after WLS and often post about people not taking to liquid diets, 5 day pouch tests etc when trying to kick start weight loss - it just perpetuates the yo yo dieting and very possibly screws the metabolism further - aside from perpetuating the dieting mentality that we should be trying to lose after undergoing major surgery!!!!
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I weigh on a pretty consistent scale and the swings I see are sometimes mind boggling. One week I gained 5 lbs. and the next I'd lost the whole 7. Now I am still at that weight even though I've been killing it with my intake and workouts.
I want to get myself in condition to do some more extreme stuff (not just for weight loss. I feel very kick ass when I do things, especially in the gym, that most people can't do...it's my ego you see...).
Maybe that'll help?
RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!
By accident found her side...
http://www.zoeharcombe.com/the-knowledge/energy-in-does-not- equal-energy-out/
Check her view on exercise and carbs loading ...
What she "preaches" works for me... my body gains when I look at carbs...
That may not be true for some people... but I do believe some of us are supper "crafty" in gaining weight on carbs...
Now - as long as I control carbs and processed foods - I do not need to count calories... and maintain.. but losing... it is very hard...
But - if I exercise - I will gain weight because my sugar would drop and I would get really hungry...
I can do fast walking, yoga, some other - low intensity exercise... hake me run... and I am on my face due to low BS in 10-15 min.
Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG
"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"
"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."
I also read the 3500 calories quotes and SMH (specific to me) as this would definitely cause me to put on weight quickly.
Proximal RNY Lap - 02/21/05
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http://www.zoeharcombe.com/the-knowledge/energy-in-does-not- equal-energy-out/
What she "preaches" works for me... my body gains when I look at carbs...
That may not be true for some people... but I do believe some of us are supper "crafty" in gaining weight on carbs...
Now - as long as I control carbs and processed foods - I do not need to count calories... and maintain.. but losing... it is very hard...
Hala. RNY 5/14/2008; Happy At Goal =HAG
"I can eat or do anything I want to - as long as I am willing to deal with the consequences"
"Failure is not falling down, It is not getting up once you fell... So pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start all over again...."
Someone posted this awhile ago. It discusses a study done to show that hormones that effect metabolism change while dieting. Even after the person stops the levels do not go back to their prediet level making it easy to regain the weight.
I am not down the line yet, but from past experience i find a lot of truth in this. Every time I would try to lose weight it was harder. Then I would get to a certain point and I couldn't go any lower. If I went off a tiny bit the weight would creep back on.
Being realistic about a good weight for each individual, I personally believe some folks are set on weighing a certain amount when it's not doable based on body type, height, bone structure and such. Whether it's a surgeon's goal weight or personal, it may not be a weight that is going to happen.
I look at your pics Nic and say "no way" she weighs XYZ (can't remember what you said), you just look way smaller than "that number". So although you would like to see a smaller number, you realize and know that you look fantastic where you are (as do I). I want some of your curves, LOL.
Proximal RNY Lap - 02/21/05
9 years committed ~ 100% EWL and Maintaining
www.dazzlinglashesandbeyond.com
So I try to be diligent. I hate the "2." Somedays if I poo really good I achieve 198. That's exciting.
RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!
