can someone tell me abou****er loading?

Well, I want to do what will work best for me, regardless of what any surgeon does.  My doctor does not make choices for me, I make my own choices.  I get information from my doctor, and from others, but then I make my own choices based on that information.

for me unless i eat some kind of meat, and fruit for my meal, i also get hungry..i eat a yogurt and cheese for a snack, and i get hungry early on also...but when i eat meat i dont....but i have been eating milk with my vitamins in the morning, then i eat a breakfast later after that, but it takes me about an hour or so to get the vitamins in and milk....its at my leasure as i dont work...then i eat breakfast, and i am good to go until dinner with a snack in there.... unless i am out and about doing alot of errands and such....i still have my snack, sometimes its nuts, cheese, fruit, a yougurt, but if i am on the road..i alway keep in my purse a ziplock baggie of trail mix, a baggie of beef jerky, and a baggie of protein bar...usually it has been opened with a bite or 2 out of it..i can only do a couple bites at at ime from a protein bar, now i have the quest ones, but i have only tried the chocolate brownie one....but those things are always in my purse, as i could handle taking a cooler with ice and cheese and things like that for when i was out and about...
but for some reason when i eat a yogurt, i get hungry sooner also...perhaps it is not dense like meat is...and is more of a slider food then dense protein...
have a great day
debby

 kelly's vegetarian though so the meat option doesn't work for her

I do eat dense protein, though.  Tonight for dinner I had vegetarian Italian sausage.  So that should work about the same as meat, I think.  I think the texture is similar.  It's dense.

I copied a post from 10/03/07

I never tried it so I don't know if it'll even makes sense.

Here you go!  Judy

"1. The patient must time meals five hours apart or the
patient will get too hungry in between.
2. The patient needs to eat finely cut meat and raw or
slightly cooked veggies with each meal.
3. The patient must eat the entire meal in 5-15
minutes. A 30-45 minute meal will cause failure.
4. No liquids for 1 Ґ hours to 2 hours after each
meal.
5. After 1 Ґ to 2 hours, begin sipping water and over
the next three hours slowly increase water intake.
6. 3 hours after last meal, begin drinking LOTS of
water/fluids.

7. 15 minutes before the next meal, drink as much as
possible as fast as possible. This is called ⌠water
loading.■ IF YOU HAVEN▓T BEEN DRINKING OVER THE LAST
FEW HOURS, THIS ▒WATER LOADING▓ WILL NOT WORK.

8. You can water load at any time 2-3 hours before
your next meal if you get hungry, which will cause a
strong feeling of fullness.


Fluid loading is drinking water/liquids as quickly as
possible to fill the pouch which provides the feeling
of fullness for about 15 to 25 minutes. The patient
needs to gulp about 80% of his/her maximum amount of
liquid in 15 to 30 SECONDS. Then just take swallows
until fullness is reached. The patient will quickly
learn his/her maximum tolerance, which is usually
between 8-12 oz.

Fluid loading works because the roux limb of the
intestine swells up, contracting and backing up any
future food to come into the pouch. The pouch is very
sensitive to this and the feeling of fullness will
last much longer than the reality of how long the
pouch was actually full. Fluid load before each meal
to prevent thirst after the meal as well as to create
that feeling of fullness whenever suddenly hungry
before meal time. "

Thanks for the info about how it works.

These guidelines won't work for me, though.  I do not eat any meat and I cannot time meals five hours apart because I have reactive hypoglycemia and my blood sugar would drop too low if I went that long between meals.

But I will try the water loading part.  I wonder how much I can gulp without upsetting my tummy, though.

 The only person I knew wghose surgeon gave them any info abou****er loading indicated that the idea is that if your intestines are full enough, your body will interpret that as you being full.  I tried it to help keep me from snacking, but it just made me feel bloated and "overwatered" like when I would drink so much as a kid that I could feel a large amount of liquid sloshing in my tummy when I moved certain ways.

Lora

I don'****er load but there are times I drink a good bit before I eat and I am fuller.  And times I drink maybe 1.5hrs after I eat and think I will explode when I haven't been that full after eating.  It must be due to water/food in the intestenal track that hasn't moved and everything gets backed up. 

Greek yogurt never stays with me long even when I add a scoop of protein to it.  I only eat it as a snack when I am having another meal in 2-3 hrs or less. 

Hey Kelly,
Two things...
1) I've found that by following a diet (as recommended by my nut) of low carb and higher "good" fat (avocados, raw nuts, eggs, healthy oils, etc) my appetite is more controlled. And, of course lots of good protein (for me that's meat, for you it would be all your good vegetarian sources). I find when I eat a "low fat" diet I'm hungrier. If you are not overdoing the carbs, which can actually cause hunger, the higher good fats won't cause issues with cholesterol, etc. (It's the combining of fat/carb that creates an issue with fat).
and 2) here is a link that talks more abou****er loading (part of it was posted here in response to your inquiry, but here is the whole article)...http://www.thinnertimesforum.com/topic/18232-water-loading/

I have done water loading, don't ALWAYS, but have done...and it does help. It also keeps you from being thirsty after a meal, which leads to drinking after a meal, which as you likely know can also cause premature hunger. Good luck!