OT - why is it that men can't find things?
Not directed at you, but at the article...
It is pseudoscientific bollocks.
It's a simplistic set of post hoc ergo propter hoc assumptions. ( e.g. we have always been relegated to childcare therefore we are genetically predisposed to childcare). Bull**** evolutionary psychology and thinly substantiated ideas.
Women might have more cones and rods ( which will actually more likely to affect the differentiation of colour rather than the accuracy of sight) but if you brought a man to a dusty dresser, pointed out the dust and asked him if he can see it, unless he is visually impaired, ( or is lying) he'll say yes. It's not that it's mysteriously invisible to him, it's that it's beneath his casual notice. That has nothing to do with his eyesight, it has everything to do with focus and personal value.
It is pseudoscientific bollocks.
It's a simplistic set of post hoc ergo propter hoc assumptions. ( e.g. we have always been relegated to childcare therefore we are genetically predisposed to childcare). Bull**** evolutionary psychology and thinly substantiated ideas.
Women might have more cones and rods ( which will actually more likely to affect the differentiation of colour rather than the accuracy of sight) but if you brought a man to a dusty dresser, pointed out the dust and asked him if he can see it, unless he is visually impaired, ( or is lying) he'll say yes. It's not that it's mysteriously invisible to him, it's that it's beneath his casual notice. That has nothing to do with his eyesight, it has everything to do with focus and personal value.
Yes, absolutely! Same stuff. When you grow up in a milieu that demands that you watch those details and corrects you when you miss them you will always be more likely to notice them and to have a desire or impulse to correct them. When you're not, you don't.
Plus, sociologically, women are instilled with the cultural ownership of cleaning and the cultural blame of dirt. If you have friends over and there's popcorn sitting there on the floor, your guests are likely to place the blame for the lack of order on you, not on him. More importantly, you are conditioned to feel embarrased or ashamed of that dirt. Men ( as a social class) are not. Having a (casually) dirty or messy environment would likely not affect his sense of self, where it probably would affect yours.
Plus, sociologically, women are instilled with the cultural ownership of cleaning and the cultural blame of dirt. If you have friends over and there's popcorn sitting there on the floor, your guests are likely to place the blame for the lack of order on you, not on him. More importantly, you are conditioned to feel embarrased or ashamed of that dirt. Men ( as a social class) are not. Having a (casually) dirty or messy environment would likely not affect his sense of self, where it probably would affect yours.
I can't complain because ever since my dad died I would lose my head if it was not attached. Just the other day I went to the bank to get cash to pay a guy that was working for me. It was not a large amount of cash but large enough not to lose, well yesterday morning I got to looking for it. I had also gotten some cash to go shopping on. I could not find it. I looked every where, cleaned out a drawer where I usually put anything extra I have and it was not there. Cleaned out the two drawers below it, not there, cleaned out my computer desk drawer, didn't find it. Went shopping with my debit card, while driving down the road I thought, I bet it is in my bed. Got home and it was under my pillow. So I paid the guy and took rest of the cash back to the bank because I don't like having money in my house.
On the other hand, the one personal item I wanted that belonged to my father was his pocket knife. I know that I have spent at least 2 months of my life looking for it for him. He lost it about every time it came out of his pocket. Heaven only knows why he even still had it, but I have known it to be gone for a year or more at a time.
On the other hand, the one personal item I wanted that belonged to my father was his pocket knife. I know that I have spent at least 2 months of my life looking for it for him. He lost it about every time it came out of his pocket. Heaven only knows why he even still had it, but I have known it to be gone for a year or more at a time.
Jacqueline
RNY 1/24/11
Because they don't have a vagina. Seems it's a sort of homing device for stuff and because we have one it's why kids and men ask us where stuff is that they've just put down or don't feel like looking for. Roseanne did a bit about vaginas' being a homing device for everything lost years ago. Pretty funny!!
Jen 10 yrs post op
Jen 10 yrs post op
LOL I never knew my vagina was what made me able to find his car keys when he misplaces them! You know what else is funny? Quite often when he "loses" something, I know where it is without even having to look. Because he misplaces it in the same place regularly. If he can't find his keys or his cell phone, it's in the pocket of the pants he wore yesterday. If he can't find his library book, it's in the bathroom.
And why do men like to read books in the bathroom anyway?
And why do men like to read books in the bathroom anyway?
Kelly
Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR. If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor. Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me. If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her. Check out my blog.
You know once or twice my husband has implied I was the one who moved something that HE can't find. It's caused a few spats, I can tell you.
I hate sending him for groceries because no matter how plainly I write down what I want, he will still find a reason to make 2-3 phone calls asking questions about what it is exactly that I want. Drives me nuts.
Lesbian's must have it much easier I think.
I hate sending him for groceries because no matter how plainly I write down what I want, he will still find a reason to make 2-3 phone calls asking questions about what it is exactly that I want. Drives me nuts.
Lesbian's must have it much easier I think.
HW: 218, SW: 204, CW: 139 GW: 112-119
Hmmm. I never thought about it before, but when I was in a relationship with a woman, I could send her to the store.
When I send Mike to the store, I only put really basic stuff on the list. If it has to be a certain brand or a certain style of something, not only is he likely to call me ten times from the store, but he's likely to bring home the wrong thing anyway. It really is easier to just go buy it myself.
When I send Mike to the store, I only put really basic stuff on the list. If it has to be a certain brand or a certain style of something, not only is he likely to call me ten times from the store, but he's likely to bring home the wrong thing anyway. It really is easier to just go buy it myself.
Kelly
Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR. If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor. Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me. If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her. Check out my blog.
Just wanted to state for the record that being a lesbian isn't any help to me! 
In my marriage (legal here in CA) I am more feminine and my wife is more masculine and she has "male refrigerator blindness" (as my mom calls it) anyway. She can't find anything in the kitchen or pantry and she can not be trusted to go to the store. Thank God I love her for who she is.
My brother, who is a gay man CAN find things for the most part although not as well as my mom and me.
Someone figure that one out for me?
My experience seems to go along with the theory that it's social conditioning but I have always thought it was a genetic issue personally.
For 100,000 years before agriculture we were a hunting and gathering people. For the most part, men hunted and women gathered. Women also provided 80% of the food. If you're a hunter you just need to see one thing - the prey. If you gather all day you need to see detail and remember where things are.
That's always been my pet theory.
In my marriage (legal here in CA) I am more feminine and my wife is more masculine and she has "male refrigerator blindness" (as my mom calls it) anyway. She can't find anything in the kitchen or pantry and she can not be trusted to go to the store. Thank God I love her for who she is.
My brother, who is a gay man CAN find things for the most part although not as well as my mom and me.
Someone figure that one out for me?
My experience seems to go along with the theory that it's social conditioning but I have always thought it was a genetic issue personally.
For 100,000 years before agriculture we were a hunting and gathering people. For the most part, men hunted and women gathered. Women also provided 80% of the food. If you're a hunter you just need to see one thing - the prey. If you gather all day you need to see detail and remember where things are.
That's always been my pet theory.
Highest weight: 331 (4/13/10), Entered Bariatric Program: 320 (9/7/10), Pre-Surgery Goal: 310, Day of Surgery: 307 (2/15/11), Current Weight: 171 (5/12/12). 5'5". I am overweight now!
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