losing weight "on your own"

CarmelCandy777
on 9/5/11 12:18 am

Good point! There are so many lifestyle changes involved wiht having surgery. Some people have no idea. It truly is not an easy solution, but one that brings hope to those of us who struggled without surgery. Plus it's always interesting to see how long people who don't have surgery maintain their weightloss.

HappyMango
on 9/5/11 12:40 am - FL

RNY on 10/17/11

Kelly,

I know you probably hear this a lot but I really love your postings! Informative, brilliant and they often hit home on some level. I'm still pre-op and have been following the guidelines that our surgeron suggests until the liquid diet (yah I have to do two weeks, it's our surgeon's mandatory requirement and quite honestly I don't have a problem with each surgeon having their own set of "rules" but I digress). Anyhow that mentality has crossed my mind, "on my own"=no surgery, but you are absolutely right, after surgery, I will be ON MY OWN. Sure I have support of some family members but they aren't going to be making my food for me every day. They aren't going to the grocery store to shop for me. They aren't going to force me to walk, run, play.

Love it! Thanks!

poet_kelly
on 9/5/11 12:48 am - OH

RNY on 11/04/08

I don't necessarily have a problem with each surgeon having their own "rules" either, except when I think their rules might actually harm patients (like when they say to take flintstones and Tums for vitamins).

I have a problem with them telling patients there is only one way to do things when that's not true and I have a problem with surgeons that tell patients things are absolutely not true in order to get patients to follow their "rules." Like, I have a problem with surgeons that tell patients if they drink soda, they will stretch out their pouch and ruin it because that is simply not true. But I have no problem with surgeons that say they do not want their patients to drink soda because it's not good for them.

Kelly

Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR. If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor. Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me. If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her. Check out my blog.

Cynthia L.
on 9/5/11 1:02 am - Clarence, NY

RNY on 06/04/08

LOL

At our last support group meeting, my surgeon's NUT told us that drinking soda would stretch the pouch and immediately me and one other gal who knows better snapped our heads around to each other and mouthed "WTF?"

We both asked her to clarify and she THEN said that while she has no data to back up that claim, that's her belief.

Her belief?

Since that was "her belief," all I registered from the rest of her presentation was what Charlie Brown hears in the classroom. BLAH BLAH ALL CRED LOST BLAH

Bad boys get spanked. - Chrissie Hynde

poet_kelly
on 9/5/11 1:06 am - OH

RNY on 11/04/08

And if she wants to share her beliefs with patients, she should at least make sure she tells them "This is just my belief. There is no scientific evidence that it's true."

Kelly

Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR. If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor. Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me. If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her. Check out my blog.

Cynthia L.
on 9/5/11 1:19 am - Clarence, NY

RNY on 06/04/08

Yep, we had to drag that out of her, she didn't offer that up. For the record, I don't drink pop or beer and only have the occasional sparkling white.

Also, she said that drinking pure water was different than drinking water that has crystal light in it or flavored zero calorie water (I drink Aqua Fina grape flavor splash)...it was different on a cellular level. Different on a cellular level tells me nothing, so I asked "Are you saying that we don't absorb these zero cal non-carbonated-but-non-pure-water drinks as much as pure water?" and she said Yes, we do.

So then, WHY should we do this? She had no answer..again, it was her belief.

I'm more than happy to follow rules, I just want to know the WHY of the rules.

I hate regular water and before I found the Aqua Fina, I was dehydrated for a year. I pee pretty clear all the time now, that's a good thing. Yes, I know, I'm also getting in a lot of Sucralose, and that's not great for you, but it's either that or be thirsty all the time.

-Cyn

Bad boys get spanked. - Chrissie Hynde

poet_kelly
on 9/5/11 1:27 am - OH

RNY on 11/04/08

See, that kind of stuff really bugs me. You hired her (you're paying her, even if you don't get an actual bill for her services, when you pay your surgeon that money includes her services, just like when you visit your PCP and a nurse takes your vital signs, you don't pay her separately, it's included in the fee your pay your doc) to give you accurate nutritional information, not to give you her beliefs that have no scientific basis.

Kelly

Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR. If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor. Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me. If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her. Check out my blog.

poet_kelly
on 9/5/11 12:50 am - OH

RNY on 11/04/08

I wanted to add that I think most people are more successful at losing weight if they do NOT try to do it "on their own." I don't mean everyone needs to have WLS. I mean everyone needs to have support from other people. Most people could probably benefit from a little professional support, too, whether that means help from a doctor, dietician, personal trainer or whatever. So I sought professional support from a bariatric surgeon. That does not mean he lost the weight for me.

Kelly

Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR. If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor. Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me. If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her. Check out my blog.

Cicerogirl, The PhD
Version
on 9/5/11 12:54 am - OH

RNY on 08/27/07

I guess my quickly-answer-so-I-can-go-back-to-the-LaZBoy response would be that, with the surgery I don't think we are LOSING it on our own because we will lose weight during the first 6-9 months even if we eat nothing but crap (and that condition -- the malabsorption and the tiny pouch -- is created by the surgery and the surgery alone). I do think, however, that we MAINTAIN the weight loss all on our own based on the changes we made during that first year. People who don't maintain the changes are almost certainly going to regain and (hopefully!) most of those who DO maintain the liftestyle and food changes will keep the weight off.

Lora

14 years out; 190 pounds lost, 165 pound loss maintained

You don't drown by falling in the water. You drown by staying there.

poet_kelly
on 9/5/11 1:12 am - OH

RNY on 11/04/08

So as long as we can eat crap and still lose weight, that means we aren't doing it "on our own?"

I know the malabsorption is created by surgery and surgery alone. But there are other tools that are not created by us. Like, if I hired a personal trainer and that trainer got me to exercise a whole lot so I burned a bunch more calories than I otherwise would, then the trainer created that rate of calorie burn. And, if I burned enough calories, I could probably eat crap and still lose some weight. So would that mean I was not doing it on my own then either?

I hope you're feeling better today.

Kelly

Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR. If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor. Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me. If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her. Check out my blog.

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