OT - cat with litter box problems

poet_kelly
on 8/20/11 12:42 pm - OH
We did put plastic runners in some of her favorite places to pee.  We didn't think about turning them upside down, though, that's a great idea.  But we were just thinking, at least it would be easier to clean up the pee if she continued to pee there.  However, she just finds new places.

The vet did say we could try another med.  I guess I was assuming it would not be any more effective than the first one we tried, but I don't know why I was assuming that.  Seems like we might as well give it a try.  Thanks.

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Ladytazz
on 8/20/11 12:49 pm
I was going to ask about diabetes because I had a friend whose cat was going outside the litter box and the vet diagnosed diabetes.  I believe she is doing a lot better now.  My son and his wife were recently having this problem and their vet put the cat on Prozac.  I don't know if that has helped yet or not.
I have a dog that refuses to use the doggy door.  She is 2 years old and won't even try.  She loves going outside but when the other dogs go out the door she just sits there or tries to go out the sliding glass part.  I let her out all day but she just doesn't get it.  Fortunately our house has linoleum so it is easy to clean up after her and I lay puppy pads all over and she uses them  but I know it can get frustrating at times.

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Dave Chambers
on 8/20/11 12:56 pm - Mira Loma, CA
The analogy of using run runners upside down is like humans sitting on a spiked toilet seat. DAVE

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CarolineM
on 8/20/11 4:12 pm
Maybe trying a different type of litter would help. Sorry, no other ideas. When my cat went through a similar stage, Feliway seemed to help. Or else the cat just decided to stop peeing next to the litter box. With cats, who knows?

It's very frustrating.
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SweetGirl11
on 8/20/11 5:55 pm
Hi Kelly,

Just taking a shot here but..... I was wondering, is it possible that your kitty is associating the litterbox with the time when you were away?  That is, she is associating going in the litterbox with a time of loneliness/sadness?  The reason I say this is because I have a cat, Milo, whom we got from a shelter two years ago, along with his brother, Elvis (sadly, Elvis died not long after we got him - heart problems).  Both cats came from a "hording house" where there were supposedly 40 cats.  I also suspect there may have been abuse.  From the time we got them, Milo would not poop in the litterbox, only pee.  He picked a corner in the living room where he would poop.  Even peeing in the litterbox seemed to induce severe anxiety and panic (like a PTSD reaction).  We tried everything to modify his behavior.  Then, on Christmas Eve, six months after we got him, he did his poop in the box!  Milo was actually happy and did this crazy little "dance" and meowed like "I DID IT".  We praised him to the hilt.  He has always pooped in the box since then but still with much anxiety.  We think he must have had a traumatic experience associated with going in the litterbox. 

I wish I had a solution or suggestions for you.  Just wanted to share a similar story.  It's sad how animals can have emotional issues just like us humans do.  

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poet_kelly
on 8/21/11 3:36 am - OH
Yeah, it could be that.  The probably definitely began at that time.  Prior to that, she had never once gone outside the box.  I'm not sure what we can do to help her if that is the issue, though.  I mean, she was on medication for anxiety and it didn't help.  We had the Feliway stuff (which is expensive) and it didn't help.  I tried using Bach flower remedies with her.  I do praise her when she uses the box.  For a while we gave her a treat every time she used the box (and that was the only time she got treats, and she really loves her treats).

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Kat Kat
on 8/20/11 8:43 pm - AZ
Since cats really have their own personalities it's hard to pinpoint specifically what's going on. It sounds like you've done the typical checks with UTI's, diabetes and anti anxiety medicine to no avail. I am wondering if it's possibly a territorial thing. Some cats do not like their space invaded by strangers, nor do some of them like sharing their humans. My last cat was 19 years old and I noticed she displayed  similar habits as yours when I was in a relationship. She would pee and poop around the areas that my partner and I slept or snuggled in. If he was away, she was perfect.  When we parted ways she was perfect again. In one house I once put her littler box in the guest room. On the first night I had company, she peed  right on my friends pants. All these areas were of course hers first. I never was able to make her stop and spent a lot of time with a blacklight, cleaning solutions and carpet cleaner.  If I lived in a place in which she would not have been on the low rung of the food chain, I'm certain I would have put her outside. I wish I had a solution for you, but maybe if you identify the reason for the behavior it will help, which is why I threw my 2 cents in. I hope you get to the bottom of this and find a solution.

Kat

            

queenmabb
on 8/20/11 9:27 pm
Does your cat have any thyroid issues?  When I was in college, my Mom had a cat that would go outside of the box.  We thought it was just being a bad cat.  When we took him to the vet, they did a geriatric cat work-up and his TSH was through the roof.  The vet then told us that going outside of the litter box with no other urinary tract problems was an indication of this. 
poet_kelly
on 8/21/11 3:38 am - OH
Not that I know of.  I am pretty sure that's been checked but I will check with the vet to make sure he did test for that before.

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Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR.  If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor.  Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me.  If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her.    Check out my blog.

 

dasie
on 8/20/11 10:06 pm

My daughter has a similar issue.  She has a 14 year old cat.  Several years ago she rescued 2 and her roommate had one.  Once she brought 2 of the 3 into the apartment, her cat started having litter box issues.  Sometimes she would use it and sometimes not.  Eventually she stopped using it altogether.  Then she noticed her cat would use the towel she placed outside the tub to stand on when she showered.  Well...my daughter moved back home last November, and peeing on towels and carpets WAS NOT AN OPTION in my house. I had to replace the carpet because of my dog.  So...she bought wee-wee pads, and they work perfectly for us.  I keep a wee-wee pad in our bathroom, not perfect but better than carpets or towels, and she keeps wee-wee pads on her floor in her room along with the litter box for the other 2 cats and one by the back door.  Now my dog sometimes uses it!!!! Of all things.


She will not use the box at all now.  I wonder if when you were hospitalized the box became too full and that's what made her stop using it?  That is kind of what we figured happened to my daughter's cat - or possibly she was upset other cats moved in.  Whatever the issue we found wee-wee pads in various places is the only place she will go.  We also have to be careful not to leave anything laying on the floor like clothing or something or she will use that.




    
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