D2 vsD3 (again)

poet_kelly
on 8/6/11 1:25 am - OH

There are two types of vitamin D, D2 and D3. It’s important that we know this because one type, D3, is absorbed well and the other type, D2, is not. Unfortunately, many doctors do not know the difference. They may not even realize there are two types of vitamin D, and if they do know there are two types, they may think they are both equally well absorbed or may have no idea what the difference is. I know it seems like a doctor should know these things, but the reality is, many do not.

D2 must be converted to D3 in the body in order for the body to use it. It takes a fair amount of D2 to make a little bit of D3. I’ve seen anywhere from three units of D2 to make one unit of D3 to ten units of D2 to make one unit of D3.

When your vitamin D level is low, doctors often want to give you a prescription for vitamin D. What they prescribe is called Drisdol, and it’s D2. They prescribe it in 50,000 IU soft gels, those little things that look like footballs and have oil inside. The reason they put it in oil is because vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin. Being in oil is supposed to make it absorb better. That’s true for non-RNY folks, but is not true for RNY-folks because we malabsorb fat. We need dry D3. But some docs don’t know that, either.

OK. So your D is low and they give you 50,000 IU D2 and usually tell you to take it once a week. That’s not enough if your level is really low – and if your doc is prescribing vitamin D, it’s usually because it’s very, very low.

If it takes three units of D2 to make one unit of D3 in your body and you take 50,000 IU of D2, you’re really only getting about 16,666 IU of vitamin D. If it takes ten units of D2 to make one unit of D3, you’re really only getting about 5000 IU of vitamin D.

Now, keep in mind that recent research suggests that folks that have not had WLS and that have normal levels of vitamin D need 1000 – 2000 IU per day just to maintain their levels. If you needed 7000 – 14,000 IU per week just to maintain your level, do you think 5000 – 16,666 IU once a week is going to bring your level up? Not likely.

And if you had RNY, that prescription D2 in oil will help you even less because you won’t absorb much of it at all because you malabsorb fats. But even if you are pre-op, or had lap band or VSG, the D2 is not going to be sufficient for you.

You cannot get D3 by prescription. It is only available over the counter. Even if your doc knows the difference between D2 and D3 and writes a prescription for D3, the pharmacist will give you D2. That’s because there is no D3 available by prescription and legally pharmacists are allowed to make certain substitutions. You have to get your D3 over the counter and if you had RNY, you need to make sure it is dry D3, not in oil.

Keep in mind that we want our D levels about 80-100.  Lower than that, we are at increased risk for things like osteoporosis, heart disease and some cancers.

View more of my photos at ObesityHelp.com          Kelly

Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR.  If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor.  Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me.  If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her.    Check out my blog.

 

Trish S.
on 8/6/11 1:30 am - Upstate , NY
Thanks Kelly, that totally makes sense now.  
“I think everyone should be told they’re beautiful until they believe it.?
      
poet_kelly
on 8/6/11 1:34 am - OH
I love it when I actually make sense.  LOL

View more of my photos at ObesityHelp.com          Kelly

Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR.  If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor.  Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me.  If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her.    Check out my blog.

 

Trish S.
on 8/6/11 2:03 am - Upstate , NY

When I read important posts from you and the other vets, I copy and paste the info in Microsoft Word, so that when I actually am post-op, I can look back and find the answers to my questions.....Vitamin D2 vs D3, Grocery lists, what to take to the hospital, what to do if I'm in a stall,  what bloodwork I should have done etc.....  I find the posts here to very educational and informative.   I specifically like the fact that I can get no nonsense answers.  I appreciate all of your input.  Thanks again Kelly and the Vets!!!!

“I think everyone should be told they’re beautiful until they believe it.?
      
poet_kelly
on 8/6/11 2:05 am - OH
I wish I had done that before surgery.  I didn't figure it out until I was post op, but I do it now.    There's just too much to learn and remember, plus something might not actually apply to me now but it might later.

View more of my photos at ObesityHelp.com          Kelly

Please note: I AM NOT A DOCTOR.  If you want medical advice, talk to your doctor.  Whatever I post, there is probably some surgeon or other health care provider somewhere that disagrees with me.  If you want to know what your surgeon thinks, then ask him or her.    Check out my blog.

 

bittybabynurse
on 8/6/11 1:41 am - MN
Thanks for the great information Kelly!
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CarolBeth
on 8/6/11 1:50 am - SoCal, CA
Your posts are so helpful, even when it's posted 'again'.  Information just falls right out of my head these days, so I like to have the reinforcement.  Thanks!!
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HappyMango
on 8/6/11 1:56 am - FL
Excellent and informative!
Thank you Kelly!!
     
ktharp89
on 8/6/11 2:08 am - Gaithersburg, MD
 Thank you so much!
Height - 5'8  - SW - 292/ CW - 177.6 /GW - 150 - BMI - 27.1 - 114.4 lbs lost!
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Gina1013
on 8/6/11 5:24 am - Canton, OH
 Thanks Kelly! I am learning soooo much on OH!




    
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