I have to get a reversal......
RNY on 04/10/12 with
I throw up almost every day and have an ulcer, my opening is very small because of scarring and everything around it is inflamed. I was told that it will go away but it may take months. Could you be going through the same problems? Did you have an endoscopy? I am on a liquid diet and meds until I get better. There is no way that I would consider a revision except as a last resort. If your nausea is really bad you can have a Reglan or Zofran pump and use it for months like I did during my pregnancies. There really are ways to end nausea, please ask your doctor. Give yourself a bit more time to get better, maybe things will turn out ok. Good luck.
Hey girlie,
I don't have much to add to what others have said. I always understood reversals to be the dead last option and one that not many surgeon's recommend because of the cnance of further complications.
I would get a few more opinions if I were you. You said you can't continue to dilate. Can I ask why? Not criticizing, I just didn't see where you said why that was (I could have missed it).
Either way you are NOT a failure. I know that much is true. Hugs to you and please explore ALL your options - revision, further dilation AND reversal - very, very thoughtfully before moving forward.
I don't have much to add to what others have said. I always understood reversals to be the dead last option and one that not many surgeon's recommend because of the cnance of further complications.
I would get a few more opinions if I were you. You said you can't continue to dilate. Can I ask why? Not criticizing, I just didn't see where you said why that was (I could have missed it).
Either way you are NOT a failure. I know that much is true. Hugs to you and please explore ALL your options - revision, further dilation AND reversal - very, very thoughtfully before moving forward.
Hang in the March-surgery-buddy. I will keep you in my prayers. You and your doc talk and then talk some more. It never hurts to get another opinion. Ultimately only you and the health care professionals treating you know what your body needs.
I have never thought you were a nagative person - you simply needed support for how you were feeling in the moment. Remember too you had some good days - so hold on to them and I hope your doc and others who counsel you will help you discover the right thing to get you to the point where you have many more good than bad moments!
HUGS
I have never thought you were a nagative person - you simply needed support for how you were feeling in the moment. Remember too you had some good days - so hold on to them and I hope your doc and others who counsel you will help you discover the right thing to get you to the point where you have many more good than bad moments!
HUGS
Maybe I'm not in a good mood but I'll just be blunt. I agree with Lady L. The word reversal has been thrown around a lot lately. If you look at the complications board there are people there that are literally dying and can't get a reversal. It is a very complicated procedure and much riskier then the RNY. Even if a surgeon was willing to do one, it takes a lot of skill. It is said that in order to have a revision from a RNY to a DS the hardest part is putting the stomach back together. There are only 4 or 5 surgeons in the country that are skilled enough to do that. I don't know if there is a difference in that surgery and a reversal but I would think it is close.
The other thing I don't get is that a reversal would have to be pretty expensive. I can't see how an insurance company that just put out thousands on a WLS would just go ahead and spend many more thousands to reverse a surgery that isn't causing life threatening complications. I am talking about TPN type complications. I would think they would not pay for someone to reverse a surgery after just a few months unless there was no other option.
I am not saying you aren't being truthful. I just think you may have misunderstood your surgeon. Maybe he was talking long term options. Maybe it is wishful thinking. Maybe I am talking out of my ass and I don't know a thing. I remember spending the first months dreaming about a reversal and going back to the way I was. It was 2 months for me before I stopped throwing up.
If you really don't want a reversal then I would definitely see another surgeon because if your surgeon really is talking about reversing your WLS after just a short period of time and your life isn't on the line then I would question his competence as a surgeon.
The other thing I don't get is that a reversal would have to be pretty expensive. I can't see how an insurance company that just put out thousands on a WLS would just go ahead and spend many more thousands to reverse a surgery that isn't causing life threatening complications. I am talking about TPN type complications. I would think they would not pay for someone to reverse a surgery after just a few months unless there was no other option.
I am not saying you aren't being truthful. I just think you may have misunderstood your surgeon. Maybe he was talking long term options. Maybe it is wishful thinking. Maybe I am talking out of my ass and I don't know a thing. I remember spending the first months dreaming about a reversal and going back to the way I was. It was 2 months for me before I stopped throwing up.
If you really don't want a reversal then I would definitely see another surgeon because if your surgeon really is talking about reversing your WLS after just a short period of time and your life isn't on the line then I would question his competence as a surgeon.
WLS 10/28/2002 Revision 7/23/2010
High Weight (2002) 240 Revision Weight (2010) 220 Current Weight 115.
Before you read this... just remember this. I have buyers remorse too.. im only trying to help you.
Well, I guess what I'm going to say is going to sound mean.... but didn't you eat a hotdog like 2 weeks after your surgery? I think I remember some post from you about hotdogs. I was still drinking broth and cream soup two weeks after mine.
I been on this msg board for quite a while mainly reading a lot lot lot, and only posting a little, but after reading all your posts for the last maybe 2 months, it seems to me like your more frustrated you cant eat what you want, and you still say you eat too fast. That's not a fault of the surgery, that's a fault of yourself...
I also remember something about you not going on the pre diet because you didn't have to or something. My opinion is that your lack of a pre diet also plays into this difficulty your having. I was told by the Nutritionist, and the Psych that the two week pre diet gets your mind (and body) prepped that this is going to be challenging... and its no light matter. I think you missed out on a lot not doing a pre-diet. Its like going cold turkey trying to quit smoking. When your addicted to something, in our case food, its hard to just one day stop.
Occasionally I forget and eat too fast too. Actually, it happened yesterday with my morning eggs. I was running late for work. Yepp I barfed it up right next to my car. The birds had fun that morning i bet. Sometimes when i eat too fast I get massive pain, or get pain and foamies, or pain foamies and sweats. But its my own fault...
I think what you need to do is evaluate why you had the surgery in the first place. We all had surgery to be healthier.
I hope you feel better. But get lots and lots of opinions, and really really think about what the problem is before you do anything. If I were you, I might also talk to someone on a more personal level about your surgery.
I agree with a lot of what you have to say here.
But I did want to point out that different surgeons do have different pre-op diets and post-op progressions, and so it is difficult to know if a person is doing what they should unless you know the set of rules they were given.
For myself, and I consider myself quite successful, I did not have to do a pre-op diet, and I don't think that by itself a person should be judged by this. Every surgeon has a different perspective on whether this is helpful. I was willing to do it, but I didn't have to, and it didn't make a difference to my ultimate success.
Just wanted to add that.
But I did want to point out that different surgeons do have different pre-op diets and post-op progressions, and so it is difficult to know if a person is doing what they should unless you know the set of rules they were given.
For myself, and I consider myself quite successful, I did not have to do a pre-op diet, and I don't think that by itself a person should be judged by this. Every surgeon has a different perspective on whether this is helpful. I was willing to do it, but I didn't have to, and it didn't make a difference to my ultimate success.
Just wanted to add that.
~Lady Lithia~ 200 lbs lost!
March 9, 2011 - Coccygectomy!
I chased my dreams, and my dreams, they caught me!
...And I would add to THAT that I didn't have to do a pre-op diet either and it wasn't my digestive system that was the problem as a result. I think it's a good idea to take it upon yourself to integrate some of the post-op eating habits into your life before surgery just because EVERYTHING around you is changing and it's a comfort to at least know what you can eat and how you should eat it.
But I agree with Lithia. My surgeon didn't require a pre-op diet and I didn't have any complications either.
But I agree with Lithia. My surgeon didn't require a pre-op diet and I didn't have any complications either.
RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!
I'm utterly convinced that my postop time was SO easy, and my success (so far) so good because I learned how to eat like a postop and did that for six months before surgery. Nobody told me to do it, but I wanted to know in my heart if I was capable of living the lifestyle.... no way was I going to get all sliced and diced if I didn't know whether I could handle it. What I discovered was that the RNY eating FIT me BETTER than how I ate on my own..... so for me surgery was about healing, not about difficulties.
But I wouldn't presume to suggest that a person is UNsuccessful because they didn't do what I did. A lot do super-fine with their first real inkling of the future on the day before surgery.
But I wouldn't presume to suggest that a person is UNsuccessful because they didn't do what I did. A lot do super-fine with their first real inkling of the future on the day before surgery.
~Lady Lithia~ 200 lbs lost!
March 9, 2011 - Coccygectomy!
I chased my dreams, and my dreams, they caught me!
Oh yeah, I agree. Just wanted to point out that mentally it can help a lot to do that prep work. I wish I had!
But no...I think folks actually don't give ENOUGH credence to their surgeries/genetics in how much they lose. They think because Suzie X hiccuped and got to goal they will too.
I specifically call to mind Crystal D. She was very vocal about how she HAD to eat all these carbs to slow down her losses. She had to! I couldn't. My weight came off fine but I plateau'd high. I don't consider that a failure. I think I lost as much weight as I MY body wanted me to lose with the tool I gave it. That's NOT to say eating healthy isn't important, but that you have to take things in perspective. I was never small. Never. Not even as a newborn. So I don't know why I expected I should be rail thin after this process was over. I don't think my body knows how to do that.
Now I'm just musing...I'll stop here.
But no...I think folks actually don't give ENOUGH credence to their surgeries/genetics in how much they lose. They think because Suzie X hiccuped and got to goal they will too.
I specifically call to mind Crystal D. She was very vocal about how she HAD to eat all these carbs to slow down her losses. She had to! I couldn't. My weight came off fine but I plateau'd high. I don't consider that a failure. I think I lost as much weight as I MY body wanted me to lose with the tool I gave it. That's NOT to say eating healthy isn't important, but that you have to take things in perspective. I was never small. Never. Not even as a newborn. So I don't know why I expected I should be rail thin after this process was over. I don't think my body knows how to do that.
Now I'm just musing...I'll stop here.
RNY Gastric Bypass 1-8-08 350/327/200 (HW/SW/CW). I spend most of my time playing with my food over at Bariatric Foodie - check me out!