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Wolvesfan1
on 7/21/19 6:31 am
Topic: RE: VSG - 10 Years on. Weight Gain - Reflux etc - Revision suggested

I am 12 years post sleeve. I lost over 100 lbs and I haven't had the weight gain. However, recently I started having severe reflux and I had a large para esophageal hernia that pushed my stomach into my chest cavity.

My surgeon was able to repair the hernia, reconstruct my diaphragm and pull my my esophagus and stomach back into place. We thought everything was great, but the reflux did not go away. I basically throw up after each meal.

I had my sleeve in Mexico and paid out of pocket for it. My insurance now that I've only had for 5 years said because I didn't go through the insurance that I had 12 years ago they won't cover. They are in the process of recouping money they have paid for all my procedures. So, in addition to having the reflux, I now have the added stress from the insurance company.

My insurance changes to Medicare in December and they should cover most of the RNY. I'm going to deal with the reflux until that time and I'm searching for an attorney to fight my insurance company.

If you decide to have the RNY, I would love to see how your results are. I am worried that if I do have the RNY that it may not fix the problem. My doctor at the Mayo Clinic assures me that the problem will be resolved.

Good luck on your journey!

KrissyKooKoo
on 7/21/19 5:38 am
RNY on 07/22/19
Topic: Surgery Tomorrow- Revision from VSG to RNY

Hi Everyone,

I have to convert to RNY due to extreme GERD. My surgery is tomorrow. They said recovery and diet will be exactly the same as it was for the sleeve. Starting to get nervous because I never wanted RNY (though I got some of the side effects of it that I didn't want like lactose intolerance, sugar intolerance, and trouble absorbing medications and vitamins orally). I don't remember a lot of what it was like after surgery but I do remember throwing up non stop so I'm praying that doesn't happen again! Any words of wisdom or luck are welcome!

            
Wolvesfan1
on 7/20/19 6:14 pm
Topic: RE: Revision from a Gastric Sleeve to a RNY due to complications.

I have not heard of Lindstrom. Where are they located and how can I reach out to them? Do you have any knowledge of how Medicare would handle? If my insurance is not going to pay, I'm going to have to wait until my Medicare becomes active in December. It's a daily struggle, but I can't afford to pay more out of pocket. As it is now, if they take back all the money they have paid for the hernia repair, test, etc. I'm probably over $200,000 in debt and that's more than I can afford before getting my problem resolved.

hollykim
on 7/20/19 5:30 pm, edited 7/20/19 10:36 am - Nashville, TN
Revision on 03/18/15
Topic: RE: Revision from a Gastric Sleeve to a RNY due to complications.

On July 20, 2019 at 10:44 PM Pacific Time, Wolvesfan1 wrote:

I had a self pay gastric sleeve approximately 12 years ago in Mexico. I lost approx 100 lbs and I have kept it off. In the last couple of years I started throwing up a good bit. After many test my American physician found that I had a large para esophageal hernia that was pushing a 1/3 of my stomach into my chest cavity. I had the hernia and my diaphragm needed repair. My doctor said my sleeve looked good. He said it was larger than what they make them today, but looked about the size the doctors did the 12 years ago. After the hernia surgery, I continued throwing up. My surgeon now says that the only way he can correct my problem is to convert me to an RNY. My BCBS is not wanting to cover. Even though I was not insured with them 12 years ago they said I didn't go through an insurance company to get approval for the original sleeve. They are also pending my follow up visits from the hernia repair and requesting medical records. How can they do that? Is that legal? Also, in December I will be eligible for Medicare. I was told that traditional Medicare would cover my revision, but if I went with a Medicare Advantage plan they may not. The Medicare Advantage Plan would be through my husband's retirement benefits. Has anyone had this problem before? If so, any suggestions on how I can get BCBS to cover this. Any recommendations on which Medicare plan I should consider?

I think it would be against the law to request your medical records , due to OSHA regulations. I also think it would be considered a pre existing condition so they legally have to cover it.

Dont know for sure but that is what Oi think.

You might consult with lindstrom, who is a group of attorneys who work getting insurance to cover when they should,but don?t want you to know they have to.

 


          

 

Wolvesfan1
on 7/20/19 3:44 pm
Topic: Revision from a Gastric Sleeve to a RNY due to complications.

I had a self pay gastric sleeve approximately 12 years ago in Mexico. I lost approx 100 lbs and I have kept it off. In the last couple of years I started throwing up a good bit. After many test my American physician found that I had a large para esophageal hernia that was pushing a 1/3 of my stomach into my chest cavity. I had the hernia and my diaphragm needed repair. My doctor said my sleeve looked good. He said it was larger than what they make them today, but looked about the size the doctors did the 12 years ago. After the hernia surgery, I continued throwing up. My surgeon now says that the only way he can correct my problem is to convert me to an RNY. My BCBS is not wanting to cover. Even though I was not insured with them 12 years ago they said I didn't go through an insurance company to get approval for the original sleeve. They are also pending my follow up visits from the hernia repair and requesting medical records. How can they do that? Is that legal? Also, in December I will be eligible for Medicare. I was told that traditional Medicare would cover my revision, but if I went with a Medicare Advantage plan they may not. The Medicare Advantage Plan would be through my husband's retirement benefits. Has anyone had this problem before? If so, any suggestions on how I can get BCBS to cover this. Any recommendations on which Medicare plan I should consider?

White Dove
on 7/19/19 2:32 pm - Warren, OH
Topic: RE: RNY 01/05/09 looking for revision

I have a friend whose daughter just went through rehab. Her drinking problem started after RNY. Congratulations on being sober.

As Rocky pointed out, revisions do not seem to work for more than 20 pounds. Weight loss after surgery is like magic for a few years, but it is a once in a lifetime opportunity. The body will always try to get back to where it was. There might be medical intervention program that would help you.

The first step is to get to a surgeon and have your surgery evaluated. See what type of help they can suggest. Whatever happens you will have to find a way to eat less. It is not easy, but you have shown remarkable perseverance and courage in staying sober.

That shows you have strength and the ability to make healthy changes for yourself.

Real life begins where your comfort zone ends

rocky513
on 7/18/19 3:40 pm - WI
Topic: RE: RNY 01/05/09 looking for revision

First of all...congrats on your sobriety. We "old timers" on this site spend a lot of time trying to warn people about transfer addictions and to stay away from alcohol.

Have you had an endoscopy to see if your original surgery is intact? That would be my next move if I were you. If your original surgery is working, then there is no need for a revision and you CAN lose weight on your own. I have a friend on this site that recently lost over 50 pounds and she is more than 15 years out from surgery.

Unfortunately there are not any good revisions to RNY. Most of the surgeries that tighten the stoma fail and the average weight loss is about 20 pounds. If you have a stretched stoma, I would go ahead with the surgery to fix it, but know that if you don't carefully measure every bite of food, it will fail almost immediately. You will have to learn to be a strict rule follower.

As for food: Eat dense protein first, then non starchy veggies. Dense protein fills you up. Stay away from carbs, don't drink your calories (only zero calorie drinks), don't drink with your meals or for 30 minutes after, get a good food scale and measure your food. You should not be eating more that 1 to 1/12 cups of food per meal...that is the TOTAL volume. We obese people have a really skewed view of what a portion size should look like. If you are eyeballing your portions, I can guarantee that you are over eating.

Eat by the clock. Don't eat between meal times. If you are hungry...ignore it. Nothing bad will happen to you if you force yourself to wait until your next scheduled meal. Stop chasing the full feeling. You will never feel that sense of fullness that you had before surgery. Your anatomy has changed. Stop depending on restriction to keep you from eating. Your stomach has been lying to you for decades, telling you that it's hungry when it's not. You need to get your head back in charge and take your stomach out of the equation. Eat what you measure out and then stop eating.

Sometimes stomach acid mimics hunger, a PPI might help. Don't make the mistake of thinking that a gurgling stomach is a sign of hunger. It's not. We all have noisy stomachs after WLS. That never goes away for some of us.

I would suggest finding a good therapist and stop trying to find a weight loss program to lose the weight. There is a reason you choose to overeat. There is a reason you turned to alcohol. Until you figure out why you are self sabotaging you won't lose weight. Find someone who specialized in eating disorders. Many of us add a therapist to out WLS team. I believe that you don't get to be 200 pounds overweight without having disordered eating. You are worth the emotional work and the expense to figure things out.

YOU CAN DO THIS!!!!

HW 270 SW 236 GW 160 CW 145 (15 pounds below goal!)

VBG Aug. 7, 1986, Revised to RNY Nov. 18, 2010

GoldFish
on 7/18/19 2:57 pm
Topic: RNY 01/05/09 looking for revision

I had RNY done January 5th 2009. It could not have went better. I had ZERO complications. I lost around 190 lbs. I was 374 and got as low as 185. I wound up having some major issues with alcohol use after the weight loss. I actually wound up going to two rehabs and six detoxes during a 3 year period. I have not had a drink in 5 years...but since I stopped drinking I haven't stopped eating. I am now around 300lbs which is still 74 less then my highest weight. I have tried many things, nutritionist, dietician, Weigh****chers, many calorie counting apps, intermittent fasting and therapy. The surgery did not fail me, I failed the surgery. I have been trying to lose weight for the past 5 years. I have omitted wheat, flour and sugar at times. I always go back to eating. I have tried meditation and prayer. I don't really know much about revision surgery but what I have read has not seemed promising. StomaphyX and Transoral (sic?) I am not really sure where to turn. I have tried OA as well as Grey Sheet Anonymous. I have not given up but I have to admit my hope is fading. My feeling is that my stoma has stretched, the reason I feel this way is because I still get some feeling of restriction but it does not last long. I'm sure it has stretched somewhat naturally but mostly because of my overeating. I can't look back and what could have been. I am asking for advice. I am a 58 year old male. Thanks for taking the time to read this. I look forward to any and all responses.

Kevin

 If your going to pee with the puppies you can't run with the big dogs....
sw 373  cw 185  goal 185



       

msquetta1
on 7/13/19 2:50 pm, edited 7/13/19 7:50 am
VSG on 09/30/15
Topic: RE: Revision in Tampa Bay area

Hi! I had my sleeve done by Dr John Dietrick. He's a very good surgeon. His office staff is great as well. He also does the GB too.

Tx2Nc
on 7/12/19 11:18 am
Topic: RE: 2 surgery Lap band revision?

Yes, I have my band still. It hasn't had any fluid in it since 2015 though. My surgeon is fairly confident that he'll be able to do both surgeries at one time. The idea of two bouts under anesthesia, two hospital stays and two recoveries was the reason I sought out a second opinion, but I think my surgeon is fairly unique in this approach. In his experience, it's also a bit safer from an insurance perspective to get the revision approved at the same time as the revision. As he put it, 100% of insurances will pay to have a band removed, but then you're back to square one, with potentially no revision in your future. I'm also on a very tight timeline. I have to have everything done no later than 12/31 or I can't have it done at all, due to finances and I'll just be stuck with chronic GERD and gastritis. I was hoping to hear back this week, but no such luck. Fingers crossed for next week:)

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