Shout OUT you ERNYers

I'm pleased I proved your point because to be quite honest, all I saw were temper tantrums. I honestly did not realize you had a point.

I have been most clear repeatedly that I am not overly familiar with RNY or various versions of RNY.  I consider myself beyond lucky that I do not need malabsorptive.  I mean that sincerely.  What I *am* familiar with are the complications your doc seems to have that other docs do not experience on a regular basis. This appears to upset you a great deal.

Yes, everyone has an opinion.  Some base those on fact and some base those opinions on what they want to be fact.

The only reason the issue is brought up time and time again is that some of you (not saying you) make a trade with Schlesinger.   If one brings him enough noobs she gets her surgeon fees for free.  I'll bet you or your ins paid dearly for your surgery, not all his patients do.

FWIW... I honestly no longer believe you are one of the paid posters.  I don't.  I"ll go on record writing this.  But I do believe Dr. S's office that others are "Office Advocates."  I don't see a reason why this would be something untrue.

I do advocate do your research.  I can point you in the direction of literally hundreds of posts where I state just that.  I don't just suggest people do their research, I show them how to do so without depending on other patients or patient coordinators to feed them info.  I show them how to verify info for themselves.  Honest and sincere... do you really have a problem with this?

Note my posts, I am NOT one of the pro-DSer posters.  I'm on the fence on that one.  Any malabsorptive procedure scares me.  You see, nutrition is the baby of ALL medicine.  The least research dollars are devoted to nutrition.  Mega bucks are devoted to cancer and such, but pennies are devoted to nutrition.  I suspect that any malabsorptive procedure is lacking in true nutritional information because we just don't know enough about it at this point.  It's a double edged sword, some need malabsorptive yet we really don't know the long term results of malabsorptive because we do not know just what we are looking for yet.

I'm thrilled when I see someone that is good to go with restriction alone.  I know they are not going to be a stat.  The malabsorbing folks.. I worry.  Shoot me, I do.  We just don't know what they are malabsorbing and how to supplement this.  So I am going to challenge you on this... get DS and cure your life once and for all.  You won't find similar posts to mine.  They do not exist.  I'm not sold on RNY or DS.  I am verrrrry well versed on bands and sleeves.  Restrictive alone.  Beyond that.. not my thing.

So with all due respect, you are the one that needs to get a clue as well as anger management. I"ve written it before and I'm writing it again because quite frankly, it's true.

MWG, let's see your stats for complications on the surgeon you are naming in that accusation, along with the surgeon's stats you are claiming have less complications.
I
don't beleive you have those stats. I am very sure we won't be seing any such thing because you are blowing smoke. I'm supprised you haven't gotten sued for slander. Perhaps it's because the surgeon you slander sees you as a pest to simply slap away and go on about his business.

I also don't beleive you have the least understanding of what is statiscally significant and what is not. These surgeons spend a major portion of their young lives studying and practicing to become surgeons. I would take any one of them's word on almost any medical topic over yours, any day of the week.
I also don't think you know **** about the increased risks of revisions of any kind. As you admit you do not know **** about RNY, ERNY or DS, why don't you " stick to what you know" and let those who do know about RNY, ERNY and DS  deal with those topics????
You write a 1000 words just to say " get a sleeve", one of the least performed and least proven methods of weight loss surgery out there. I say if you want one, get one. But don't be supprised when other people see it isn't for them.

Heh... you are getting your knickers in a twist, I've noticed you do that a lot.  Is that a trait of your surgery type or just those you hang with?

I have never claimed to know Schlesinger's stats.  What I do know is what I have posted, what their very own office has told me as well as his reputation in the medical community.  I know he is not comfortable doing a revision from band to sleeve via lap, his office said he has to do them open.  The better surgeons can do them via lap.

I also see his patients such as TJWood posting about the infection he has along with the misdiagnosis, then the wrong abx being given.

I see Joyce and all her problems going back and forth if she has medical problems or not, if she likes her surgeon or not.  She doesn't seem to be able to decide, just as Dawn explained to me in a PM.

I know his receptionist told me a poster here is his office advocate.

You see, Sally... sometimes we don't need to know the stats that a doctor "claims" to know he isn't someone we would go to, it's a part of research.  Research is critical before having any elective procedure.  It avoids many problems down the road.

Yes, I have a sleeve.  Not all of us need malabsorption we are good to go with a sleeve.  If you need malabsorption, that's you.  It isn't the rest of the world.  I'm thrilled for you that you got the surgery type you require, not all of us need something quite that drastic.  If the day comes that I am in your shoes I can revise to that but for the last 2+ years I have managed quite well with a restrictive procedure alone.  Are we clear on this?

ETA: this post was directed to MWG
The first point of this board is basically for surgeons to get exposure. Opinions from a surgeon's OWN patients are encouraged on each surgeon's page, by the owners of this web site. So you should take it up with the powers that be, if you don't want people to rave about their surgeon.
The second point is to provide support to those seeking weight loss surgery, and to post-ops.
Support doesn't mean to use degrading speech like calling people stupid. When someone goes around calling people stupid, and saying they can't make intelligent decisons, it really makes that someone appear stupid. It seems that it's too much on that someone's mind, and perhaps they feel bullying others gives them a aura of competence. Exactly the opposite, it makes them look like they have self-esteem issues where their own mental abilities are concerned.

Your personal opinion about a surgeon you haven't USED is pretty much worthless and to be taken with a grain of salt.
I cannot see what business it is of yours who loves what surgeon, who want to recommend what surgeon, or why you spend time harrassing other people.
Have you considered spending time helping the homeless, or animal shelters where you could make a difference?

This board most certainly is not to promote surgeons or to give them exposure, it's a support board.  Check out what OH has to say about this:

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Not sure what world you live in but in my little corner there are people that simply are not bright and/or lazy.  When someone doesn't bother to learn about an elective procedure they are about to have and how to work with it, that's stupid.  So you and I are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
 

 Hello LosingSally,

I just wanted to commend you.       Your knowledge about wls is commendably and your willingness to share without condemnation of anyone elses choice is appreciated.  Your integrity and high standards are noticed.  Thanks for posting your story and the wonderful support you give.

Hi everyone.  I had my bypass march 16,2006 and now i will have to have a revision.  so many question.  i sure hope i came to the right place.

Im not technically an erny YET... but will be soon.
Good Luck to all of us!

My Dr said he will leave a 100cm common channel.
I have been following one of his patients who has lot 110 lbs so far in a little over a year.

Wow Shele:

110 lbs. I too am getting the ERNY...I would sure like to know who that patient is?

Thanks Janie

I'm having to use my original post to reply to one of the crazy people on here who have an aganda OTHER than support:

My post:
On March 15, 2009 at 4:01 AM Pacific Time, LosingSally wrote: ETA: this post was directed to MWG
The first point of this board is basically for surgeons to get exposure. Opinions from a surgeon's OWN patients are encouraged on each surgeon's page, by the owners of this web site. So you should take it up with the powers that be, if you don't want people to rave about their surgeon.
The second point is to provide support to those seeking weight loss surgery, and to post-ops.
Support doesn't mean to use degrading speech like calling people stupid. When someone goes around calling people stupid, and saying they can't make intelligent decisons, it really makes that someone appear stupid. It seems that it's too much on that someone's mind, and perhaps they feel bullying others gives them a aura of competence. Exactly the opposite, it makes them look like they have self-esteem issues where their own mental abilities are concerned.

Your personal opinion about a surgeon you haven't USED is pretty much worthless and to be taken with a grain of salt.
I cannot see what business it is of yours who loves what surgeon, who want to recommend what surgeon, or why you spend time harrassing other people.
Have you considered spending time helping the homeless, or animal shelters where you could make a difference?
MWG's post:

This board most certainly is not to promote surgeons or to give them exposure, it's a support board.  Check out what OH has to say about this:

www.obesityhelp.com/content/terms-of-service.html


My reply:
On the heading " browse bariatric surgeons"  if you click you will find this statement from OH:

Help us help our community! We need your input on health professionals you know of. How sensitive are they, for example, to the needs of the obese. The more you share about yours, the better informed we can all be. To review a health professional, click here to enter the members' login screen. Once you are there, you will see a link for reviewing professionals and surgeons.

Your use of " fisties" and "feeties" is a childish way for a adult woman to reply to other adults posting on a message board. It causes a lack of confidence in your opinions. Try a more mature approach.
Since I'm blocked, I won't be interested in your flaws or inabilities to be straight forward, and post ONLY what you have proof to back up.

As for attributing anyone's behavior to their surgery type, I'd have to assume those with your type are childish? Yet I understand this is ONLY you, and others with the same behave like adults.

I don't give a swamp rat's ass what surgery anyone has. As long as grown people make decisions for their own bodies, lifestyle, health and pocketbook, it's none of my business, or anyone elses!!!!