Shout OUT you ERNYers

Get off your pity pot.  My "attack" is telling you quite clearly to refrain from PMing me.  You suggested that I PMed you first and I offered to forward the PMs to ANYONE who wants them to see truth.  You consider this an attack.  Hello?

Pity pots... they serve a purpose but in the end they aren't honest, are they?

MWG,

What the heck are you talking about a pitty pot? You can PM my post and I don't really care. I have not PMed you in over 2 weeks what the hell are you talking about ? I think you and STacysMom have been going over board on this site. You and StaysMom keep calling me a liar and so call me a "office Advocate " where the heck is this coming from. You guys attack anyone if you don't like there post. I know you have issues with Joyce but that has nothing to do with me at all. Who from Dr S's office said certain people were office advocates. I am just wondering. I doubt they even say that. I think that is one of your fantasy lies. Are you and StacysMom one in the same ? You sure write the same way. You have a personal issue with Dr S for some reason and won't tell anyone what it is really about. I am having my knee replaced but is really none of your business but if I want to shout from the roof tops of how of a great surgeon he is there is nothing wrong with that . I would highly recommend him to other people. I have come across crapy orthopedic surgeons and I would not want my family or friends to go to them. I use to do Quality Reviews in various hospitals so I have the stats to prove it but I can't post it all over the place. I just know certain doctors to stay away from. I can tell from the records who has a high death rate or high post op wound infection for example. Why in the hell would I recommend them for surgery? So where do you get all this crap on DR S at all. Because you make it up and lie all the time. I bet you work for Dr Gitt and post all this crap to stir everything up. Why don't you show your picture because your afraid we will figure who you really are. You say along with StacysMom all this mud slinging started last summer. I was not even posting at this time. If Joyce wants to play cheerleader for the current doctor she works for is her business and has not a dam thing to with me and other Dr S patients. I am happy about my surgery results and if I want to be grateful to Dr S I can be. I don't have to advertise for him because he is a very busy surgeon. I am sorry I can't do rebuttals to all your lies because I  have to much knee pain and I am hardly at the computer anymore like I use to be . It seems the more Dr S patients come out of the wood work, that seems to **** you guys right off. They have told me they don't like post because of 3 of you guys harassing everyone that speaks out against you.  If you think I am a liar why don't you prove it. This site is for everyone to post and get along and learn from each others experience but some people don't want to do that and just want to post all research. You make this site like a war zone and get people pissed off all the time. I think you guys should just have a forum for research only and if anyone has a question they can go to all 3 of you guys and leave the rest of us alone to post about our WLS journey in a safe non controlling site. I thought you had a lap band just put in but I don't go around putting you down because the stats say there are a million problems with it. I know you did your research as I have but I don't bash you about your decision do I ? I think you don't want to show your true identity is because if we find out her you are someone might slap you with a gag order to stop you from slandering and deformation of a person on a public site. Other people have posted this to me that are lawyer's and watching all your postings. That is just a fact and not a lie. Get a life....

~~You and StaysMom keep calling me a liar and so call me a "office Advocate " where the heck is this coming from.~~

Prove your case.  Post the quote where I said you are a liar and an Office Advocate.  I never made such a claim.

~~You guys attack anyone if you don't like there post.~~

Again.... not true.  What I have attacked is using a support board to recruit for a doctor.  Let him pay for his advertising, using a support board is inappropriate.  Are you familiar with the OH TOS?

~~Who from Dr S's office said certain people were office advocates.~~

The receptionist.

~~Are you and StacysMom one in the same ?~~

Nope.  She knows a whole lot more about RNY and DS.  She's a huge supporter of DS, I am not.  Really, get a clue.

~~Because you make it up and lie all the time~~

You throw around accusations all the time but you have yet to prove a single one of them.  Post your proof.  You won't, you never do because you can't.

~~I bet you work for Dr Gitt and post all this crap to stir everything up~~

You bet wrong.  I'm in home health.  I triage home health patients.  I have never met Dr. Gitt, never worked for a plastics guy, and have no desire.  If I was working for Dr. Gitt wouldn't it make sense that I would go to him for surgery?  Hello??  I'm going back to MX for plastics.  Last time you accused me of working for the same crap hospital that Schlesinger works out of.  Now you are claiming that I work for Gitt.  How many jobs do you think I have?

~~Why don't you show your picture because your afraid we will figure who you really are. ~~

I've been posting on message boards since it was $20/hour to do so.  I have never posted photos anywhere.  Are you familiar with the concept of internet privacy?  I could post any photo I can find off the internet, what would that prove?  Seriously, you have never met me in real time so what would a photo do for you?  I've already had my identity stolen once and I'm still cleaning up my credit due to that.  You really think I am going to take that risk again to please you?  Are you serious?  Do you read NOTHING about safety issues on line?  Honestly, Dawn, we aren't talking rocket science here.

~~I am sorry I can't do rebuttals to all your lies~~

In all the whining and feetie stomping you have yet to show a single lie that you claim.  Lots of running around, pointing fingers, bogus claims, constant accusations, but not once have you demonstrated where I have lied.  You have misquoted me, confused me with others, you assume every word I type is about you, you paraphrase me when I don't write what you want while claiming I wrote something I never did and then throw around more accusations.

Look, I know you have a brain injury of some sort and I do try to give you a break for that.  But that does not excuse the constant drama and misquotes, accusations, and other assorted drama.

~~It seems the more Dr S patients come out of the wood work, that seems to **** you guys right off.~~

I thought StacysMom and I are one in the same?  It does not "piss me off" that Dr. S people post, I don't care.  THEY are not out there recruiting patients.  THEY are telling their stories.  You really need to read posts a little more carefully.

~~I thought you had a lap band just put in but I don't go around putting you down because the stats say there are a million problems with it. I know you did your research as I have but I don't bash you about your decision do I ?~~

First of all, I never claimed you bash anyone for lap bands.  Secondly, I have NEVER bashed you for your choice in surgery types.  Again, post the quote and prove your case.  If you don't, THEN I will call you a liar.  To date I have pretty well assumed you were merely confused but it's non stop with you.  It never ends.  It shouldn't be difficult to prove all these lies you accuse me of.  Prove your case, it isn't difficult.  A 10 year old could do it.

~~I think you don't want to show your true identity is because if we find out her you are someone might slap you with a gag order to stop you from slandering and deformation of a person on a public site. Other people have posted this to me that are lawyer's and watching all your postings. That is just a fact and not a lie. Get a life....~~

Oh for goodness sakes!  Get over yourself.  Each time you "think" more bizarre accusations come from your computer.  If Dr. S has a lawyer, good for him.  Let HIM post, you clearly do not do a good job of paraphrasing.  You've demonstrated that time and time again.  A lawyer is going to tell you that I have a right to my opinions just as you have a right to yours.  How is the lawyer you pretend exists going to deal with your attacking anyone that doesn't believe your doctor walks on water?  Seriously, you can come up with something better than this. 

As I have explained to you in great detail, I have been posting on message boards since it cost $20/an hour to do so.  That has been many many years.  I have yet to post a photo or identifying data, silly girl.  It's the brighter thing to do for a variety of reasons.

I really don't know how to explain these concepts to you in better detail.  If you can't grasp these issues, please... ask someone to help you.

I don't believe for a second that the receptionist would say that certain people are office advocates. That is big news to me. I guess I will have to call them Monday morning and ask them. I have a clue and know what WLS that you had done. Please read your previous post from yourself and your other friends and find out that you have called me a liar and a paid poster. I am not going to do it since you guys are the quote queens on line. OMG you triage for a home health company. Please let me know the name of your company because I will be needing home health and I don't want you coming to my house. I am on the computer all the time. I guess you messed up If you got your identity stolen. My photo is real and most of these people in AZ use there real photo's to show there weight loss. I just want to tell you and your 2 other friends I never knew Joyce and she never recruited me for Dr S.  I learned about him by going to support meetings. She had nothing to do with it. By the way I don't support DR S on other sites but If I am on the Fibromyalgia site I will promote my PCP and Fibro doctor all the time. Oh I just recently promoted my Pain Specialist doctor to some people on the fibro site and I don't give a crap if you like it or not.....It is what you call freedom of speech as what you 3 call it..

I'm still waiting for you to prove your claims.  You made them, it shouldn't be hard.

You claim:

I work for a specific hospital,

I work for Gitt,

I am Stacysmom,

I lie all the time,

I bash you for your surgery type,

Lawyers are reading these web sites,


Prove your accusations or I will call you a liar, you accused me of doing that one already and I haven't... yet.

Here is an example of why internet privacy is the smart thing to do:

www.obesityhelp.com/forums/VSG/3885267/A-Warning-of-a-Scam-c oming-from-someone-on-this-site/

The above is from the sleeve board.

I never did say that you were attacking my weight loss. I just don't want your congrats or kudos but sate you don't want to cheer people on but you did for me and I don't want to listen to you.  You might be a bit confused because you attacked Deanne about her weight lose not me. By the way I don't go on other sites to Promote DR S. But I do support my Pain Specialist doctor on the fibromyalgia site because other people wanted to know is name and number to make a appointment with him. I am not a paid poster with him or work for him. There is nothing wrong with that. I am not his office advocate as you guys coin the term. In fact no one ever fights on the Fibromyalgia site and everyone respects each others comments unlike this site.

Hi LosingSally,
Thanks for your respect and input.  I did expect to get this type of response, they just keep showing their true colors.  People are shying away from this site because of this type of negativity and I don't blame them at all.  There are just a few who continue to do this all the time, it's like they have a personal vendeta to grind with anyone who has had the ERNY or with a physician they don't like.  

Deanne 

No, that is not accurate.  What we have a problem with is using a support board to push one surgeon that really isn't all that great. THAT is the problem.  Honestly, it ins't a difficult concept to understand.

It's a matter of opinon and everyone has one.  It doesn't make your opinion the only right one.  How do you know personally he is not a great surgeon!!!!   Are you a patient?    No you are not!!!    If people want to tell their experiences, let them speak up and tell the good, bad and the ugly if they so chose too.  You and a couple of others are the ones who keep bringing this issue up over and over again. Yes you know who you are!!!!   I didn't mention surgeon's names and some certain people you included always have to bring names into every post and make it about a particular Dr.  Well it's not, you just want to make it all about you and your opinions disguised as "do your research", get the "DS" or "sleeve".  I get tired of getting accused of someone elses sins, we are all individual people with our own health issues to take into account in our decisions. 
People can see what really is going on here.  Get a clue as to how you guys are really being perceived.  It's not a positive or accurate picture either.  You are not living in our lives and how dare all of you think you know what is best for me and my health. 

See you did exactly what I expected of all of you guys.  You proved my point over and over again.  Your lack of respect definately shines through stronger than anything else.