CD 20 and still no ovulation!

 ughhh its so frustrating! why is it so hard to get pregnant! lol. sheesh. you go so long trying not to get pregnant then when you want to its hard. no fair.

i'm gonna start charting my temp and such now. i'm learning about that stuff from this book i just bought. so hopefully that helps give me pice of mind. this cycle is still up in the air though. i don't know whats going on.

 after reading this book it could possibly be i just haven't ovulated yet. sometimes cycles can be really long. which could also explain why you're late but not preggers.

You know, now that you mentioned it, it could be the acupunture or the herbs throwing things off a bit. I remember reading on a PCOS board that I'm on that acupunture changed a girl's cycle. I've also read that herbs can do the same thing. There is a pill that lots of PCOS women try called fertility blend. I can't remember what it has in it. I was considering trying it at one time to help with regulating my cycles... but I went on Amazon and read the reviews. From the reviews it seemed that for people who had very irregular cycles the pill helped regulate them, and for people who had fairly normal cycles, the pill screwed them up. There were lots of people warning "do not take this pill if you have regular cycles." I will find the link for you and you can see what you think. Maybe some of the herbs you are taking are similar to that pill? 

http://www.amazon.com/FertilAid-Women-Female-Fertility-Supplement/product-reviews/B0002G2M9Y/ref=dp_db_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

I'm sorry you are frustrated. It is very frustrating when you want something so bad :(

 thats really frustrating if the accupuncture is messing up my cycle. the only reason i went to her was for help getting pregnant, not to make things worse. :( i emailed her and asked if the herbs were causing my cycle to mess up and she said it wasn't possible. i see her next wed for my last session (can't afford anymore) so we'll see what she says. she's supposed to give me these herbs that are custom made for me but now i'm worried they might mess me up as well. maybe i should just quit all that stuff and maybe things will go back to normal.

 I didn't ovulate until CD24 or 25 (very late for me) the cycle I ended up geting pregnant, so there's definitely still hope you will O if you haven't already. OR you could already be pregnant... with all three of my pregnancies, I had zero symptoms really early out. In fact, if anything, I was sure AF was just about to start.... felt the usual crampiness, bloating, etc...
And I hear you about being told to "relax".... We were able to conceive within 2 months for our first 2 kids, but then it took 10 months  to conceive our 3rd, and I was beyond sick of hearing that "it will probably happen when you relax and stop thinking about it" ... It always made me feel like it was ME who was "at fault" for not getting pregnant. But ya know what, I never did relax... I was obsessive and worried and goggling like a mad woman, all the things they say not to do--and I still ended up getting pregnant eventually (with a little Clomid!) so there goes that theory! 
I wish you the best of luck and I'm sending lots of baby vibes your way!

-V

 how much do i love you right now? man i have been having a ****ty day (non TTC issues) and i really really needed to hear something like this. you just made my whole day!! thank you so much. i'm on CD 22 and still no O. so its really great to hear that. its also really really awesome to hear that you had no symptoms early on. i'm getting subtle cramps. it feels like AF is coming. and she is scheduled to come friday or sat, so we'll see. i'm really  hoping she doesn't come. but i would be happy if i finally ovulated instead. i feel like there's still hope for something.  so thank you soooooo sooooo sooo much for that. 

and yes! you totally get it. it makes me feel like its my fault, just for being human and having a natural response. we can't help oursleves. why would me thinking about it affect whether i get pregnant or not? thats not fair. i think we should stop telling each other that.  because then when you do relax and still don't get pregnant you get even more upset. thanks for sharing your story. i love that.

you're aweome. totally made my night. thank you so much V! (((BIGHUGS)) 

  Glad I could make you feel a little better! Good luck & keep us posted! -V

 Hey Meli! I went off the patch around July so we could try to concieve. I just found out a week ago I'm expecting! I've had no symptoms except sensitive nipples and a little aching. It's possible you are preggers. 

 first of all CONGRATULATIONS!!! thats soo amazing!!! oh my gosh you must be on cloud nine :)

wow thats crazy! thats what i have. i keep getting these cramps like i'm gonna get my period but no period yet. i'm not supposed to get it till friday. so i know 1 of 3 things has to happen this week. either i finally ovulate, i get my period, or i pee on a stick. there's so many things going through my head. i really don't know which way it will go but i would be so ecstatic if i was preggers. i think just knowing  that its possible with no real symptoms gives me hope. and just that hope makes me happy. we'll see what happens. i'm trying not to get too optimistic though. i'm staying realistic. it could really go either way. i haven't had this happen to me before (cycle wise). so we'll see.

thanks for sharing this with me. it helps a lot!!

this is gonna be a LONG week for me.

Many tests let you test early. Make sure to test mid stream first pee in the morning.