Maybe It's Just Me
If he just asked a question or started a thread (Which he has before) I wouldn't have a problem with it - but here he was stirring the pot. I think that is inappropriate. he KNOWS because his wife is 34 weeks (I think) pregnant that we tend to be well hormonal, and he also knows that we speak our mind. I feel that he came here just to cause trouble with this post and I Don't appreciate that.
I don't have a problem with men being on the board. Obviously it's great if they are that supportive of their SO to ask questions, support her, etc... My thing is he should know better than to antagonize a bunch of hormonal women.... especially about a topic that people feel so strongly about. He wasn't debating which stoller is best. He was arguing a point that people feel very very very strongly about.
I agree with you that it shows that they care, I just think he was way out of line here. Politics, Religion, alcohol, drugs... these are all things people feel very stongly about and the very first post warned that she wasn't in a good mood and the emotocon that is next to the subject line clearly showed her mood. It kinda seemed like he was egging it on.
I agree with you that it shows that they care, I just think he was way out of line here. Politics, Religion, alcohol, drugs... these are all things people feel very stongly about and the very first post warned that she wasn't in a good mood and the emotocon that is next to the subject line clearly showed her mood. It kinda seemed like he was egging it on.
~Victoria
I do read the small print on the products in my pantry as well as the LARGE print on alcoholic beverages.
I think you are probably one of those people tha****ch fox news a lot and are a conspiracey theorist as well?
Good luck and i am sure there are plenty of other boards out there that are much more suitable for you sir.
Jaime C.
It's not just you. This one hits home. After my 3rd miscarriage @ 12 wks, and years of TTC I couldn't look the other way when women were endangering their unborn baby. I started a smoking cessation program for preggo women, through our local university. It made me feel better than letting the rage eat me alive. I was a smoker. I quit during my pregnancies, and never went back to it after having my 2nd child. I understand addiction. But I understand getting help so that addiction does not damage, disable or terminate an otherwise healthy pregnancy.
For the gentlemen and his deactivated wife:
My SIL conceived 4 times in the years I was TTC. She was a raging alcoholic. I said something every time I saw her drink. I never relented. I was called a ***** and a goody goody. The rest of my IL's did nothing and denied there was a problem. My husband and I were excluded from family events because I continued to express my concern. She lost all 4 babies, from 6 weeks gestation to 5 months. Those babies never stood a chance. Even if they survived, the tests indicated severe health complications as a result of alcohol poisoning. Three years later, my SIL lost her life to alcoholism. She was 42 years old and left behind her 3 young girls and widowed my BIL. She too, had her drinking *under control* and my intervention wasn't enough to will her to stop, nor convince her to get help. Alcoholism is a disease, not a choice. Alcohol is a depressant, not something you simply avoid when you're depressed. If you are a recovering alcoholic, you don't drink. If you do drink, you are not recovering. Simple facts and the basis of the whole AA program. There is no moderation for alcoholics, and to think otherwise is a sign that you are still in denial. Go back to AA and start working the steps. Admit that there is a problem and get help. Turn to your higher power for strength and your sponsor for support. If not for yourself, then to prevent your child from following in your footsteps. Knowledge is power.
God speed.
For the gentlemen and his deactivated wife:
My SIL conceived 4 times in the years I was TTC. She was a raging alcoholic. I said something every time I saw her drink. I never relented. I was called a ***** and a goody goody. The rest of my IL's did nothing and denied there was a problem. My husband and I were excluded from family events because I continued to express my concern. She lost all 4 babies, from 6 weeks gestation to 5 months. Those babies never stood a chance. Even if they survived, the tests indicated severe health complications as a result of alcohol poisoning. Three years later, my SIL lost her life to alcoholism. She was 42 years old and left behind her 3 young girls and widowed my BIL. She too, had her drinking *under control* and my intervention wasn't enough to will her to stop, nor convince her to get help. Alcoholism is a disease, not a choice. Alcohol is a depressant, not something you simply avoid when you're depressed. If you are a recovering alcoholic, you don't drink. If you do drink, you are not recovering. Simple facts and the basis of the whole AA program. There is no moderation for alcoholics, and to think otherwise is a sign that you are still in denial. Go back to AA and start working the steps. Admit that there is a problem and get help. Turn to your higher power for strength and your sponsor for support. If not for yourself, then to prevent your child from following in your footsteps. Knowledge is power.
God speed.
Jo
DS:9 yrs old / DD:5 yrs old / DS: 1 yr old
WOW! I think you guys were a little hard on that couple. I understand you guys feel strongly about the topic, and I should probably mind my own business, but I think this went way too far and may discourage others from posting opinions or queries that may yield the same results. Really, name-calling, cursing, and judgment of others....not very nice, Ladies. There are much better ways to communicate your ideas, so let's all kiss and make up and get back to SUPPORTING each other. OK?
While I appreciate your opinion,
I never have or never will..... support drinking alcohol while pregnant.
If you find it necessary to appease everyone and not "rock the boat" if you disagree with something, then that is fine. And you have every right to do so.
I am VERY supportive. I have been on OH for 5 years. I have been on this board for awhile. I answer questions honestly. I offer advice when I can.
I am a 5 year post op with 4 children. I am not a fly by night poster. I have experience, success and opinions.
Sorry if you think I am "not very nice" and "judging" others, but I am not sorry for my opinion on the matter. I was accused of being a bad example for my children by a woman who admittingly drinks wine, beer and Jager.
I never have or never will..... support drinking alcohol while pregnant.
If you find it necessary to appease everyone and not "rock the boat" if you disagree with something, then that is fine. And you have every right to do so.
I am VERY supportive. I have been on OH for 5 years. I have been on this board for awhile. I answer questions honestly. I offer advice when I can.
I am a 5 year post op with 4 children. I am not a fly by night poster. I have experience, success and opinions.
Sorry if you think I am "not very nice" and "judging" others, but I am not sorry for my opinion on the matter. I was accused of being a bad example for my children by a woman who admittingly drinks wine, beer and Jager.
When life hands you lemons, ask for tequila & salt and give me a call!
If you don't like it don't read it. I think what everyone said/wrote... proved a great point. DRINKING IS NOT OKAY WHILE PREGNANT! Plain and simple.
My SIL and BIL both were Alcohol babies... Thank God for my In-laws they adopted them and got them the care they needed and both are wonderful people... yet my SIL still has some mental issues... and my BIL has anger problem... both having to do with the damage they received in the WOMB.
My SIL and BIL both were Alcohol babies... Thank God for my In-laws they adopted them and got them the care they needed and both are wonderful people... yet my SIL still has some mental issues... and my BIL has anger problem... both having to do with the damage they received in the WOMB.
Sara
Mom to Haleigh born 04/14/10 and Dylan 05/15/12
Mom to Haleigh born 04/14/10 and Dylan 05/15/12
Ok then where is your supporting post for them? It has nothing to do with feeling strongly about the topic for me but it is a fact that I sent a link to the poster showing that not even one drop of alcohol is safe during pregnancy and they don't seem to give a **** about their own baby. Facts are facts and the man came here to say that things are fine in moderation. NO IT ISN'T. It obviously makes him and his wife feel it is ok to drink if people are coddling him and telling him it is ok. It's NOT ok to drink. They are harming their baby. It would be a shame to not try an educate people. If someone told me today that drinking tea is harmful then I certainly wouldn't feed it to my child, born or unborn.
Since when did EDUCATING PEOPLE including name-calling and cursing? If you haven't noticed, I didn't give an opinion about the subject matter. I was completely and utterly taken aback by the response they received. Nobody has asked you to coddle them or tell him it is OK to drink while pregnant. I don't believe he posted for our approval of drinking while pregnant. It seems he posted to present another idea. Iff we're talking facts, real facts, the fact is we do not have enough evidence to make any judgments about their lifestyle.
The fact is many healthcare providers agree drinking in moderation is acceptable, while other healthcare providers believe no amount of ETOH is acceptable during preganancy. Just as some healthcare providers do not advocate coloring your hair while pregnant, other's say you can after the first trimesters, and others say go for it! These are just EXAMPLES of how differently people perceive precautions that should be taken during preganancy.
OK, so I'm pregnant, and hormonal, and so not the Internet bully. So let me end by saying that it's not always about "telling it like it is" or "putting others in their places". It's not WHAT you say, it's HOW you say it. People forget what you said, and they forget what you did, but they never forget the way you made them feel. I doubt such abusive language, or "education" encouraged this couple to eliminate drinking while pregnant. It probably drove them to have another drink. Just cool it, and think about how you would feel if someone came at you that way.
The fact is many healthcare providers agree drinking in moderation is acceptable, while other healthcare providers believe no amount of ETOH is acceptable during preganancy. Just as some healthcare providers do not advocate coloring your hair while pregnant, other's say you can after the first trimesters, and others say go for it! These are just EXAMPLES of how differently people perceive precautions that should be taken during preganancy.
OK, so I'm pregnant, and hormonal, and so not the Internet bully. So let me end by saying that it's not always about "telling it like it is" or "putting others in their places". It's not WHAT you say, it's HOW you say it. People forget what you said, and they forget what you did, but they never forget the way you made them feel. I doubt such abusive language, or "education" encouraged this couple to eliminate drinking while pregnant. It probably drove them to have another drink. Just cool it, and think about how you would feel if someone came at you that way.
I think you should re read my reply because I did none of those things. If you read the link I provided from March of Dimes you will see that it is the FDA that has said NO alcohol in pregnancy not just a random dr. with an opinion.
It makes me sad to think of unborn children having to filter alcohol through there tiny bodies and for what??? So mommy can have a drink. I HATE selfish people and drinking while pregnant is selfish!!!
Since you are hormonal I will end it too. Have a wonderful pregnancy and drink plenty of water.
It makes me sad to think of unborn children having to filter alcohol through there tiny bodies and for what??? So mommy can have a drink. I HATE selfish people and drinking while pregnant is selfish!!!
Since you are hormonal I will end it too. Have a wonderful pregnancy and drink plenty of water.