Maybe It's Just Me
At my wedding I was 6 months pregnant with Lex my doctor said I was fine for one flute of champagne. I had one sip at the toast and my brother drank the rest, I could not imagine having any more then that.
Valid to be *****y and pissy about this one!
Valid to be *****y and pissy about this one!
Stephanie Mommy to William 06/09/97, Kenny 09/24/98 and Lex 11/08/07
That AND smoking while pregnant ****** me off. C'mon... it is 9 months of your life. She can't do without?? Perhaps she should have kids. WTF!!!!!!!!!!! If she wanted to drink then maybe she should have waited until after the birth to get married. Grrrr!!!
I remember clear as day going out to the bars when I was in my mid 20's...a girl I went to school with was pregnant and out with some of her friends. It was obvious she was pregnant because she was wearing maternity clothes and in her hand was a beer. I was FUMING mad and wanted to spit nails at her.
Huge D-Bag!
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There is obviously a lot of feeling against drinking while pregnant. But like anything, there is moderation.
There will be people *****fuse to drink while pregnant but indulge in all kinds of other things that are bad for you in excess, such as diet pop, to name just one.
My wife, a member of this board, and I are awaiting our first child in a few weeks. At 34 weeks we had an ultrasound that shows the baby fully healthy and growing perfectly normally.
When we found out we were expecting our first child we discussed the topic of intake for a variety of things that have been considered by some people and authorities. Alcohol was on the list. We both enjoyed a few drinks once in a while prior to her becoming pregnant, and also during the week of conception.
About 12-15 years ago I was an alcoholic. I was in deep depression after a lot of bad things happened in my life. I was on my way out of that when my wife met me and was already in control of my situation. Some people follow the mantra of total exclusion and zero tolerance when dealing with this kind of addiction. But I realised it was just a response to a bad situation and I just promised myself this: I would never drink when I was depressed. I enjoy a beer or wine here and there, have a bottle or two of harder stuff in the freezer waiting for a special moment. I enjoy a drink rather than letting it enjoy me. A six-pack of good beer lasts more than a week in our house.
My wife was a picture postcard weight loss patient, lost 180 lbs in less than a year. She realises what food was for her, it was a safety net like my drinking was. She has been able to recognise that and until the pregnancy when her hormones kicked in she was in control of her food, not letting it control her. She would have whatever she wanted in moderation (something the RnY helped her with). Once she had that taste of whatever (even if it was a bite of my food) she was satisfied and moved on.
She did struggle for a while with addiction replacement by taking to the bottle, but since finding out she is pregnant has cranked that down to a glass of wine at her birthday dinner, the odd pint of beer drunk over at least an hour (once every week or two), and the odd sip of Jager or Becherovka for its medicinal properties (digestive aid).
I have the feeling that her pregnancy has helped her handle her alcohol and control it. As someone who wound up in hospital twice for alcohol poisoning I can say that I now control alcohol. She will be able to say the same.
Red wine has been found to aid the body in so many ways. Beer is basically just bread. And any alcoholic drink is fine in moderation. Some people can't moderate so they eliminate completely (such as those in AA membership). Some people don't know what the bar is for moderation, thinking they only drunk a couple when they actually went through a 12 pack before half time.
To completely frown upon a drink at a celebratory event severely underestimates the intelligence of the person taking the drink.
We are all different, which is why you all had different reasons for ending up on this board, and have chosen different surgeries, etc.
To describe a handful of photos on a social networking site as a "drinking binge" is a little excessive. To the same extent I cannot defend the person's actions as I do not know them. The OP will know the person better and will know whether they really are in control of their actions.
As an immigrant in the US, where most of this board's members are from, I find it strange how polarised some of culture is here. For example, a majority of people will celebrate someone who turned water into wine, but the same group will frown on a single glass of wine for a Christmas toast.
To those Christians I quote this:
Romans 14:14
I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.
In other words, there is nothing wrong with alcohol. Alcohol is not sinful. Addiction to anything is sinful. Whether it is drink, drugs, food, video games, Facebook, it is an addiction and it bad for you. BUT if you, yourself, consider it to be bad, then that is YOUR decision. Not theirs.
There will be people *****fuse to drink while pregnant but indulge in all kinds of other things that are bad for you in excess, such as diet pop, to name just one.
My wife, a member of this board, and I are awaiting our first child in a few weeks. At 34 weeks we had an ultrasound that shows the baby fully healthy and growing perfectly normally.
When we found out we were expecting our first child we discussed the topic of intake for a variety of things that have been considered by some people and authorities. Alcohol was on the list. We both enjoyed a few drinks once in a while prior to her becoming pregnant, and also during the week of conception.
About 12-15 years ago I was an alcoholic. I was in deep depression after a lot of bad things happened in my life. I was on my way out of that when my wife met me and was already in control of my situation. Some people follow the mantra of total exclusion and zero tolerance when dealing with this kind of addiction. But I realised it was just a response to a bad situation and I just promised myself this: I would never drink when I was depressed. I enjoy a beer or wine here and there, have a bottle or two of harder stuff in the freezer waiting for a special moment. I enjoy a drink rather than letting it enjoy me. A six-pack of good beer lasts more than a week in our house.
My wife was a picture postcard weight loss patient, lost 180 lbs in less than a year. She realises what food was for her, it was a safety net like my drinking was. She has been able to recognise that and until the pregnancy when her hormones kicked in she was in control of her food, not letting it control her. She would have whatever she wanted in moderation (something the RnY helped her with). Once she had that taste of whatever (even if it was a bite of my food) she was satisfied and moved on.
She did struggle for a while with addiction replacement by taking to the bottle, but since finding out she is pregnant has cranked that down to a glass of wine at her birthday dinner, the odd pint of beer drunk over at least an hour (once every week or two), and the odd sip of Jager or Becherovka for its medicinal properties (digestive aid).
I have the feeling that her pregnancy has helped her handle her alcohol and control it. As someone who wound up in hospital twice for alcohol poisoning I can say that I now control alcohol. She will be able to say the same.
Red wine has been found to aid the body in so many ways. Beer is basically just bread. And any alcoholic drink is fine in moderation. Some people can't moderate so they eliminate completely (such as those in AA membership). Some people don't know what the bar is for moderation, thinking they only drunk a couple when they actually went through a 12 pack before half time.
To completely frown upon a drink at a celebratory event severely underestimates the intelligence of the person taking the drink.
We are all different, which is why you all had different reasons for ending up on this board, and have chosen different surgeries, etc.
To describe a handful of photos on a social networking site as a "drinking binge" is a little excessive. To the same extent I cannot defend the person's actions as I do not know them. The OP will know the person better and will know whether they really are in control of their actions.
As an immigrant in the US, where most of this board's members are from, I find it strange how polarised some of culture is here. For example, a majority of people will celebrate someone who turned water into wine, but the same group will frown on a single glass of wine for a Christmas toast.
To those Christians I quote this:
Romans 14:14
I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.
In other words, there is nothing wrong with alcohol. Alcohol is not sinful. Addiction to anything is sinful. Whether it is drink, drugs, food, video games, Facebook, it is an addiction and it bad for you. BUT if you, yourself, consider it to be bad, then that is YOUR decision. Not theirs.
http://www.marchofdimes.com/professionals/14332_1170.asp
Please read this. Alcohol is not recommended in ANY amount during pregnancy and it states here the reason's why.
I don't drink alcohol but I do agree that red wine in extreme moderation is ok while breastfeeding but I don't agree in any alcohol while pregnant.
The fact is they don't test children for what they are exposed to in pregnancy and how it may affect them later in life. If you found out tomorrow that more then 10 drinks during pregnancy would cause your child's IQ to be lowered would you take that chance? It is all about risk, what are you willing to risk for that alcohol. I'm sorry but if you can't refrain from something with POTENTIAL to harm then maybe there is a problem there.
There is also the social aspect of it. There is stigma for good reason. A society as a majority chooses what is acceptable behaviour in that society. In some cultures it is ok to marry and consumate with a 12 year old. Does that make it ok in America because in Pakistan it is ok?
While I can admire your story of overcoming, I for one will never approve of someone drinking while pregnant. IF you read some of the links on the MOD site I posted you can see that even once a week consumption led to issues with the baby.
Please read this. Alcohol is not recommended in ANY amount during pregnancy and it states here the reason's why.
I don't drink alcohol but I do agree that red wine in extreme moderation is ok while breastfeeding but I don't agree in any alcohol while pregnant.
The fact is they don't test children for what they are exposed to in pregnancy and how it may affect them later in life. If you found out tomorrow that more then 10 drinks during pregnancy would cause your child's IQ to be lowered would you take that chance? It is all about risk, what are you willing to risk for that alcohol. I'm sorry but if you can't refrain from something with POTENTIAL to harm then maybe there is a problem there.
There is also the social aspect of it. There is stigma for good reason. A society as a majority chooses what is acceptable behaviour in that society. In some cultures it is ok to marry and consumate with a 12 year old. Does that make it ok in America because in Pakistan it is ok?
While I can admire your story of overcoming, I for one will never approve of someone drinking while pregnant. IF you read some of the links on the MOD site I posted you can see that even once a week consumption led to issues with the baby.
Where's the camera?
Are you effin kidding me with this?
You're right. There is nothing wrong with alcohol in moderation........For those of use who are not recovering alcoholics! And I got news for you. If you think you are in "recovery" by allowing yourself to drink in moderation, you're not. You can spin it any which way you want to, but you have an obvious disease and addiction.
Your baby my pop out with 10 little fingers and 10 little toes and look happy and healthy on the exterior, but give it a few years. I wonder what you will tell yourself if, god forbid, your child should have some sort of learning disability or some other issues as a result of those occasional drinks in moderation.
Are you effin kidding me with this?
You're right. There is nothing wrong with alcohol in moderation........For those of use who are not recovering alcoholics! And I got news for you. If you think you are in "recovery" by allowing yourself to drink in moderation, you're not. You can spin it any which way you want to, but you have an obvious disease and addiction.
Your baby my pop out with 10 little fingers and 10 little toes and look happy and healthy on the exterior, but give it a few years. I wonder what you will tell yourself if, god forbid, your child should have some sort of learning disability or some other issues as a result of those occasional drinks in moderation.
OMG are you serious?!?!?! I am about to graduate in 4 days with my bachelors in Psychology. This semester I took a class called "Psych of the exceptional child." My professor was a brilliant Doctor and all we learned about was mental disabilities in children, most of which are preventable by the mother.
Fetal Alcohol Syndrome is the leading cause of mental retardation in the Unites States.
NO amount of alcohol is safe during pregnancy.
In fact, even if the mother NEVER drinks during her entire pregnancy, she can still have a child with FAS.
How is this possible???? If the two parents have sex while intoxicated, even if the FATHER is the only one intoxicated the baby can have FAS. He sees it in his private practice all the time.
Your opinion is your own, but hate to let you know you are just plain ignorant. And please do not use biblical quotes to advocate for alcohol during pregnancy.
Julie, you aren't the only one in a *****y mood
Fetal Alcohol Syndrome is the leading cause of mental retardation in the Unites States.
NO amount of alcohol is safe during pregnancy.
In fact, even if the mother NEVER drinks during her entire pregnancy, she can still have a child with FAS.
How is this possible???? If the two parents have sex while intoxicated, even if the FATHER is the only one intoxicated the baby can have FAS. He sees it in his private practice all the time.
Your opinion is your own, but hate to let you know you are just plain ignorant. And please do not use biblical quotes to advocate for alcohol during pregnancy.
Julie, you aren't the only one in a *****y mood
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I remember several years ago reading a news article about a waitress at a restaurant refusing to serve alcohol to a woman who was obviously well into her pregnancy. She got fired.
Just keep reminding yourself...you can't fix stupid. Whether it's the 'recovering alcoholic' who is still drinking, or your FB friend's new wife.
The difference between Genius and Stupidity is that Genius has it's limits.'
Just keep reminding yourself...you can't fix stupid. Whether it's the 'recovering alcoholic' who is still drinking, or your FB friend's new wife.
The difference between Genius and Stupidity is that Genius has it's limits.'
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That's just plain irresponsible!! While there are times I would LOVE a glass of wine I won't do it! I was making Sangria for Thanksgiving and wouldn't even taste it. I try to do what I can for my baby because I know that there are 1,001 things that I can't control for every 1 I can
Not to seem insensitive either - but kinda surprised that a man would be posting here...
Not to seem insensitive either - but kinda surprised that a man would be posting here...
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